What Happened Today at #MichaelBrown Juvenile Court

Got News Sues To Get Michael Barnes's Juvenile Records Ferguson

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Gotnews.com and the St. Louis Post Dispatch filed two separate lawsuits to get Michael Brown’s juvenile records today in Clayton, MO. The venue was changed to accommodate the numerous members of the press.

There was no decision today and we don’t know when to expect it.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of misinformation about what actually took place today.

My two St. Louis law enforcement sources told me that Michael Brown was involved in a second degree murder and was a gang member. I tweeted it, filed a sunshine request, and was denied. My counsel John Burns and I filed suit.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch wrongly reported that Cynthia Harcourt, who represents the St. Louis family court, said that Michael Brown had not been convicted of a “serious felony.” (No reporter has asked her what a “serious felony” even means.)

This argument was meant to sway the judge but Gotnews.com has never said Brown was convicted–only that he was involved in one. We still haven’t heard if he was charged or not. There are many ways in which someone could be present at a crime but never be charged with the underlying offense.

Juveniles, particularly those involved in gangs, aren’t usually convicted on a first offense. They are usually given probation, a plea bargain, or a reduced sentence.

This purported lack of a criminal conviction is entirely consistent with what GotNews.com sources said.

Brown’s stepfather, Louis Head, has a long rap sheet that includes gang activity. GotNews.com is currently working to obtain that entire arrest record but here are a few snapshots.

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Could it have been that his stepfather, a known member of a gang, offered a deal to free his stepson?

This is what is done in a lot of gang disputes and that’s what we’ve heard.

It helps to explain why Brown’s family members were wearing red at the funeral.

Of course we’ll never know the truth until those juvenile records are released.

  • jinx

    While you are investigating Mike Brown’s juvenile records, make sure you do the same for Darren Wilson. I understand his mom was a crack head with a criminal record who died while Darren was only 16. Darren’s father was never around and Darren says he had some rough teen years as well.
    Your description of Ferguson as another Beruit is also wrong. Ferguson is a quiet community, but people like you love to distort the truth.

    • TRbG

      I recall looting occurring in this “quiet community.”

      • jinx

        Most of the looters had addresses outside of Ferguson. Some of the looters were from California, Texas and other areas of the country.

        • P. Johnson

          And the people that brought the molotovs were white commies from Chicago. There’s videos of Ferguson residents screaming at them to leave and another video of people telling them to stop trying to incite a riot screaming shit on a bullhorn

          • Bigfoot Steve

            So those black people throwing the molotovs were incapable of saying no, lol?

        • Bigfoot Steve

          Many of the later looters were from out of state. No one flew in from California and Texas to loot on nights one and two. That was primarily local people.

          • Jay Bailey

            I can assure you the looting was a direct result of the shooting.

          • patrickhenry13

            looters should be shot on site,,kill every freaking poor special black freak for about a year and end of problem..you scum need to die…end of story…

          • Guest

            Then bad apple cops should go too…period

            We will continue to lead this country in everything from sports to politics.

          • patrickhenry13

            freaks first, you begged your way into sports,,they cleaned up baseball,they’ll clean up the rest..the only reason that freak is in the whitehouse is because of the mistake kennedy made,and that family will be the next thousand years paying for it..you lead in violent crime,you lead in being welfare rats..not only here but around the world,,you are the worlds beggers..

          • Jay Bailey

            Bingo!! That’s what Officer Wilson was thinking when he pulled the trigger.

          • patrickhenry13

            what wilson saw was a 300 pound moron who had gone insane…and a owner who was being looted has every legal right to shoot to kill..its called the law,no matter how much your mommy told you,you could ignore it..

          • Firs Namendmen
        • Lemuel Vargas

          So who organized all those looters?

      • christopher mahoney

        Not just looting, molotov cocktails and shooting.

      • Firs Namendmen
    • Mercyneal

      Um, the media- especially the Washington Post has investigated Wilson ‘s family thoroughly. They have not done so with Brown’s family.Why are you so upset about efforts being made into Brown’s background? Afraid of what they might find?

      Good job, Mr. Johnson in unearthing the info about Brown’s stepfather, Mr. Head.

      • jinx

        Can you provide a link?

        • Mercyneal

          Go to the Washington Post and put in Wilson’s name. About a week ago the Post put a team of 3 reporters plus 8 assistants, trying to dig up something on Wilson.

        • Mercyneal
          • jinx

            I’ve read the link you provided and to be honest it’s not a glowing recommendation of Wilson either. His neighbors didn’t know him. His first police job was with a police department that was disbanded due to violent racist over tones, and now he’s involved in a shooting with an unarmed black teenager.
            By the time this case is over, regardless of the outcome, if Darren is not given a public trial his career is over. He becomes a liability to any police force. If he is convicted, a cop behind bars is not a good life.
            As American citizens we will be determining if we want our police force to have military grade weapons, training, psychiatric screening, more education, and what is acceptable deadly force in what situations.
            Is it ok to discharge your weapon, mid day in a neighborhood were children are playing, at an unarmed teenager. If a mass murderer can go into a theater and kill several people, injure others, and still be taken into custody, what justifies the shooting of an unarmed teen?

          • Mercyneal

            Sigh.. You’re on the wrong site.

          • HankEssay

            Why? Only one view allowed here? Good too know.

          • Steve Sprague
          • 1Gandydancer

            Self defense.

    • newshutr

      So.. where is your information that Wilson has/may have a juvenile record? Why don’t you get Al Sharpton to pony up for a lawyer..?

      • jinx

        Al Sharpton? OK, I guess you didn’t see the black protesters booing AL Sharpton.

        • Income and Dividend Guru

          I saw him at the church ceremony stirring up racial animosity and saw him doing the same lies he did during George Zimmerman and Tawana Brawley.

    • jj

      Ferguson is not quiet around the federal government subsidized places, according to a 30-years Ferguson homeowner:

      “When the media says that blacks receive a disproportionate percentage of police attention compared to population, it strikes me as obvious. As far as I’m aware, no one has discharged a gun on my street in the 30 years we’ve lived there. Why is it that 20 blocks away, guns are discharged on the street almost daily?”

      “Ferguson was 90% white from incorporation in 1894 until ~15 years ago. Within the last 15 years 4 federally subsidized housing projects have injected thousands of mostly low-income mostly black people into the local population. Many of the black children do not have a father figure in the house. Many of the black children are taught that they don’t have to obey the white policemen, white teachers and/or white lifeguards. These housing projects have become hell-holes of crime and violence. The deceased suspect was allegedly visiting his grandmother in one of these housing projects…Some of the projects are the ‘go to’ place for recovering stolen cars and guns.”

      • jinx

        Are we in America so afraid? I’ve visited churches in the area with mixed congregations. Let me say the local residents are appalled at how their city has been portrayed. Whites and Blacks of all socioeconomic backgrounds live in Ferguson.

        • jj

          Visiting is not the same as living there. There are many violent areas of St. Louis and St. Louis ranks high as one of the most violent cities in America.
          Many white people moved west due to violence and crime they experienced from blacks.

          • jinx

            I live in west county and at one time worked for the St. Louis Juvenile Court system. Some of the offenses the kids came in with were extremely violent, black and white. Back then there were 22 kids with to adult leaders. The leaders were able to control their groups without guns, tasers, clubs or fist. Darren Wilson and that police force had no relationship with those they served. That’s why he used a gun to control a jay walker.
            Here in West county we have Kids like Brown that were brought into the school system. It hasn’t been perfect but not one teacher has been assaulted or used a weapon to control a smart mouth.

          • jj

            He didn’t use the gun to control a jaywalker. He only shouted at the 2 men to get off the street when he first saw them as he was driving past.
            It was the second encounter – after he heard the more detailed description of the thieves and what they stole – that he backed up his car to where they were – they were STILL in the middle of the street, didn’t even listen to him.
            When he started to open his car door, they leaned on it to close it – even Brown’s sidekick admits coming in contact with the car and making it go closed.
            After that, the police officer opened his car door again and started to get out when Michael Brown (WHO WAS THE SIZE OF AN NFL LINEBACKER AT 292 pounds and 6′ 4″) pushed the officer back in the car with a loud door slam.
            Even witness Tiffany Mitchell mentions hearing a loud door slam at this point.
            Then the “jaywalker” (who’d just robbed a store and bullied a little Indian clerk) punched Wilson in the face and went for his gun.
            There was a STRUGGLE for the gun and during that struggle the gun went off. It didn’t hit either because it wasn’t aimed, and I’m sure the evidence will emerge with gives us the path of the bullet fired within the car so we’d get a good idea how it was aimed.
            The bullet’s firing startled Brown and he immediately ran with his sidekick Johnson (who has a warrant out for a 2011 theft, you know). This proves he wasn’t “being held by the neck and pulled into the car” – since he didn’t have to tear himself away.

            The police officer got out (since now the “jaywalkers” didn’t keep closing his door and shoving him back in) and gave chase. When he called for them to halt, Brown turned around and mocked him for a second, then ran back at him.

            Even an audio witness at the scene describes the scenario of Brown RUNNING BACK at the officer and how, despite the police(man) firing, Brown kept running at the officer like nothing happened (at first).
            This witness kept believing “he was missing” with the bullets because there seemed to be no effect on Brown.
            Only when Wilson went for the headshot/s did Brown finally fall down, just 2 or 3 feet away from the officer.

            Brown fell FACE-FORWARD – people with experience say the force of a bullet is like a strong punch, and the fact that he fell straight forward means he had good momentum. He wasn’t standing, nor walking, but moving towards Wilson at a RUN.

          • jinx

            I’m going to wait and see what the jury says. This shooting is a bad reflection on our society. We don’t shoot unarmed teenagers. Are we that afraid of skin color, that we automatically resort to deadly force? Sad.

          • jj

            Well the protesters/rioters didn’t have that patience and were already calling for the death penalty for Wilson from the start.
            They were also the same ones who mocked that Brown was a suspect in the robbery which brought the policeman to the street in the first place – because even though he didn’t realize the men walking in the street were the suspects (I’ll bet it was their boldness which threw him off at first), he WAS THERE BECAUSE OF THE ROBBERY.
            He was busy assisting at a “sick call” which is a call needing an ambulance, when the report came in and because he was nearby he went to investigate.

            This whole thing is on Brown’s actions. He started the ball rolling. He looks evil and cold to me as well.

          • jinx

            I’m going to wait an see what the jury says. I’m done .

          • Chelly123

            Funny that you mention an ambulance by the way. Since it took 5 hours for medical to arrive at the scene for Michael. Officer Wilson called for back up/crowd control before ever mentioning the shooting. Meaning if there was a chance of survival for Michael Officer Wilson took that chance away. It has been establishes through audio that rumors of the shooting were found out through the media before the officer called it in. Your opinion is your opinion and you can come up with your own conclusions but picking and discarding facts based on how well they collaborate with what you think happened doesn’t make your story true, it just shows how many holes it has.

          • Bigfoot Steve

            I’m going to wait and see what the jury says.

            Umm,you’ve already decided what’s true. You aren’t waiting for anything.

            You’re a bad reflection on your community. It’s this type of ignorance that explains why places like Ferguson exist.

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            It has nothing to do with skin color, it has to do with behavior.

          • http://www.AverageBro.com/ ab

            Suuuuure.

          • Bailee Barnes

            There will be no charges against Wilson, he was protecting his life.

          • 1Gandydancer

            Not when Brown was running away. Holder will charge him.

          • Opinionated2

            Wilson had two arms, two fists, and the advantage of size and strength.

          • jj

            No, he didn’t have the advantage on size and strength. Michael Brown was 292 pounds and 6′ 4″. The officer was described as tall and THIN.
            His weight is estimate at 100 pounds LESS than Michael Brown.

            Have you even seen pictures of Michael Brown? They didn’t call him a GIANT for nothing. Also his arms were very muscular – he had played high school football up to his junior year.
            He was BIGGER and HEAVIER than the police officer. Also he did a SURPRISE rush on the police officer. He INITIATED the PHYSICAL altercation.

          • http://www.AverageBro.com/ ab

            Have you seen any photos of Wilson beside other people? The man is tall and thick. Probably 6-2 225 at least. He is no shrinking violet.

          • Chelly123

            Very true. But the law states that to claim self defense you attacker has to have an equal “weapon” s gun vs your body is not equal no matter how much weight Michael had over Officer Wilson. That’s easily proven if we assume your claims that Michael consistently charged at the officer. It should have been easy for him to manhandle the officer and the struggle for the gun (an accusation not fact) shouldn’t have been a struggle at all. Since Michael is obviously the strongest of the two. And what surprise rush. If Officer is chasing him and seems him turning around to face him then when Michael starts “rushing” it wouldn’t come as a surprise.

          • jj

            Yes it would be a surprise that Michael Brown rushes the officer despite the officer having a gun pointed at him. Most people wouldn’t expect someone to be so dumb. But Michael Brown was heavily stoned.

            As for the gun, it appeared it might have still been in its holster when they struggled for it or the policeman was trying to get it out.
            Michael Brown was outside the SUV-car police vehicle and reaching in through the window, so he couldn’t use his full strength against the police officer this way. The policeman says that M.B. had the gun turned entirely into his hip at one point, but then he managed to push M.B.’s hand away and that’s when the gun went off.

            I am interested to see the bullet’s trajectory in the vehicle – that would give everyone a good idea exactly how the gun was aimed when it was fired: Did it go back into the seat cushion, or down into it, did it go down into the car floor, into the car door at an angle, etc.?

            And if a person who had just shoved you into your vehicle, smacked you and struggled to take your gun, and ONLY ran away when the gun mistakenly fired, was coming back at you in full run DESPITE you having the gun on him – that person is CRAZY, STUPID and DANGEROUS.

          • Chelly123

            1. Only marijuana was found in Michael’s system. I’ve nevwr heard of weed making people run towards bullets. Maybe they should put warnings on medical marijuana.
            2. Most if not all witnesses say that his arms were up in surrender. He can’t do both. Run like a bat out of hell towards Officer Wilson and plead for life/try to surrender at the same time. I’m definitely interested in the autopsy. Most wounds were along his right arm. A little hard to explain when you say that the victim was charging at you. Bullet wounds would seem to be more spread out. They seem to me consist with someone having their arm up and bent. The head wounds are determined to be consist with Michael’s head being down. Makes sense if he is in a surrender position, it would also make sense if Michael was stumbling forward not charging forward. If Michael is coming after the officer and the bullets hadn’t been affecting him (so is the claim) his head and chin would be up facing the officer as he was running. And yes, I wouls like to see the trajectory of that bullet in the car

          • JulianGumbs

            If these are the ONLY strength of your case, you will Lose Baldly, in legal terms, it’s not looking good at all for the officer….it simply isn’t. Basically, when ballistic from the first bullet, and sequencing of the 10/11 other shots are plotted, it will prove either, he shot in A) malice or B)fear but moreover it will prove, he was surrendering. The officer’s actions After, is his downfall. Most psychologist can observe the officer’s action following the shooting to explain, the human response and his body language was really telling. The court proceedings will be EPIC!

          • 1Gandydancer

            “…but moreover it will prove, he was surrendering.”

            Not unless there are magic talking bullets who lie.

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            You mean like all those geniuses who told us that Trayvon “Skittles” Martin was an innocent baby and George Zimmerman would be convicted ???

          • Walter Malone

            Police haven’t release much of Darren Wilson’s’ evidences because they are to dumb to make public statements like Dorian Johnson who got caught lying and lost all his credibility when his records and more evidences proved how much of a liar he is. The result will be the same as of Trayvon Martin. Wilson will walk free. The police have a dozen witnesses that won’t be revealed until trail, that is if the grand jury charges Wilson.

          • Chelly123

            Again, it’s obvious that you are also picking and choosing information to collaborate what you think/want to believe happened. None of the witnesses say that Michael was coming towards Wilson at a run. Some say he was still, some say hhe walked towards Wilson. The latest witness has said that Michael was coming toward Wilson. He said that he couldn’t tell if Michael was trying to get at Wilson or if he was stumbling forward because of the force of the bullets and if he was getting ready to collapse. Second, this witness who was 50 feet away at the time of the incident heard Brown say “OK,OK,OK,OK” after witnessing Michael being shot IN THE BACK. I believe shots to the back of people who are unarmed is frowned upon in our society, or maybe that only applies to certain people. And if you care to argue that for some reason this witness is not creditable you can look at the autopsy. Where the doctor has said it is plausible that one of the bullets could of entered from behind. Also, going back to the witness he said that he saw Darren Wilson come out his car after the first shot (which he heard but didn’t witness) with his gun drawn giving chase to unarmed Michael. Brown feel face forward because the last shots were from 10 feet away. Him stumbling forward plus the force of the bullets caused him to fall forward. Dorian said that Michael was standing close to the door so when it opened it was pushed back because of the force, he did not say that him or Michael purposely closed the door. None of your statements are based on strict facts. You filled in blanks based on what you ASSUMED happened. Also, if you could guide me to this statement from Officer Wilson or the police that said that Wilson received more details that made Officer Wilson come back after initially driving off that would be great. Last I heard from the police department themselves is that Wilson did have a description of the robbers but did not stop Michael or Dorian either time because of them being suspects. That he never knew they were suspects. Also, I find it extremely interesting that the store clerk himself did not call in a robbery

          • jj

            “None of the witnesses say that Michael was coming towards Wilson at a run.”

            WRONG. There is the AUDIO WITNESS – heard on a video tape of people at the scene. This witness is heard in the background explaining to someone who asked how M.B.’s body was so far away from the police car.
            This video is somewhere on youtube and there’s a transcript of what they are saying. This witness does describe M.B. “coming back” at the officer and how the officer fired but it didn’t stop M.B. coming after him.

            Plus, the fact that M.B. fell fully face forward and not off to the side or back shows you he had STRONG FORWARD MOMENTUM because a bullet hit is like a strong punch in force (so a series of bullets is several strong punches), and if he was still or merely walking he would not fall directly forward, timber style onto the pavement.

          • Chelly123

            The latest witness statement from workers 50 ft away from the incident say that Michael was moving forward but not at full or accelerated speed. From their position they couldn’t tell if Michael was coming after the officer (with multiple bullets in him at the time, that doesn’t seem likely) or if he was staggering forward possibly possibly pleading for him to stop. By staggering forward and the bullets hitting him as he’s leaning they would push closer to upright and gravity pushes him towards the ground. By the way, most witness have discredited Officer Wilson’s claim that Michael was at a full run/charge.

          • jj

            Well your juveniles weren’t 18 and I doubt they were 292 pounds, 6′ 4″ and had high school football experience.

          • jinx

            Sure they were. We had known gang bangers, drug dealers, murderers. Unless they are tried as adults they go to juvenile. At 18 he still has a kids mind.

          • jj

            So you had “kids” who were murderers. Were their records erased because they killed at under 18? If so then I guess people could claim they have a clean record or maybe they didn’t commit the “most serious” crimes if those murders were not 1st degree ones.
            Fact is that many “kids minds” are sadistic and murderous. There’s been many who’ve committed murder, rape, sodomy, torture, shocking animal abuse with their kids’ minds. Many of America’s greatest serial killers got their criminal start as “kids” – look at Jeffrey Dahmer.
            18 is when “kids” are sent off to wars for government sanctioned mass murder.

          • Walter Malone

            Being a black kid growing up in the ghetto is different compared to a nice neighborhood. A friend of mine who got a scholarship to play sports at my former private high school told me some insane stories about life in the hood. He lost his virginity when he was 10, smoked weed at 8, and witnessed shootings at a very young age. He started playing with guns at a young age being influenced by other black teenagers and adults who lived in his neighborhood. It was common for kids in the hood to walk to the store and steal stuff. Drug dealing and B&E to steal is an easy way to make money if you’re a high school drop out in the hood. He was 10 when he was given a job as a scout for a drug dealing gang. I know it’s hard for kids to grow up in the hood when you’re surrounded by violences and crimes. It programmed his mind and his way of thinking. He couldn’t speak proper English or have manners until his second year at our mainly white high school. He took me to his neighborhood before they moved out and I met a lot of the kids and people there that are like that. It’s how their minds are programmed and they can’t help it. People called him Uncle Tom and a sell out because his family moved to a white apartment complex so he would be closer to the school. He never regreted it because he went to college and now plays in the NFL. That is why I don’t think Michael Brown was the “gentle church going giant” that his family claims he is. A lot of teenagers are peer pressured into a life of crimes and violences. In simple term, called, “keeping it real or thug life.”

          • Opinionated2

            Teachers are not in charge of public safety. Apples and oranges.

            I do not like the police in my area either. They have never made any attempt to interact with the residents. It does not matter. I have taught my sons to obey the law and respect law enforcement officers. Never had a problem.

          • Bigfoot Steve

            That’s why he used a gun to control a jay walker.

            This is why no one is taking any of your claims seriously, lol. If you’re willing to lie on this point, it’s quite likely you’re lying about other things as well.

          • MrAnonymous

            I live in Ferguson, and jinx’s depiction of Ferguson here is correct. Ferguson is unique in that there could be an upper-middle class black professional living just doors down from a white working-class plumber, or vice versa. Most residents are appalled at how the city has been portrayed in the media. A walk down almost any street now will show house after house with “I Love Ferguson” signs as residents are attempting to band together to better the town.

          • 1Gandydancer

            The story I’ve heard is that the individual recording a message to a woman that contained two volleys of gunshots in the background (Wilson shooting at Brown) did not react because gunshots are so common. Now, I’ve lived in San Francisco’s Bayview snuggled up against Hunter’s Point. I’ve heard gunshots that killed people, seen all sorts of stuff. There was looting after Loma Prieta. But 10 gunshots would get my attention, even there. Any neighborhood where it doesn’t is a pretty bad neighborhood.

          • MrAnonymous

            “The story I’ve heard is that the individual recording a message to a
            woman that contained two volleys of gunshots in the background (Wilson
            shooting at Brown) did not react because gunshots are so common.”

            I could buy that if it had been 2-3 shots, but not 10. That’s just way too many to go unnoticed around here. Ferguson just isn’t that violent a town–its violent crime rate has been roughly on par with the US average, at times slightly higher. But, in nearby towns such as Dellwood, Moline Acres, and Jennings, the violent crime rates are much higher, sometimes even double that of Ferguson. If this guy from the audio had lived in Ferguson for any length of time, those 10 shots should not have gone unnoticed. That sort of violence just doesn’t happen here, even in our worst neighborhoods (and, just to be clear, yes I have been over to that neighborhood with my wife and son and we never once had any concern for our safety there).

      • patrickhenry13

        how dare you speak the truth,,,don’t ever do that again..

      • Walter Malone

        Look at Normandy High School where Michael Brown went to school, its ridiculous that the schools’ test scores are extremely low and the drop out rate is consistently high. They lost accreditation due to weak performance. The ACT score would shock you or make you laugh. It’s incredible that my gf works with mentally disabled teenagers that have higher ACT test scores then Normandy High School’s averages.

    • jj

      Darren Wilson received an award for his police service. His record was spotless. Brown was a thuggish doper. We can see his behavior on video tape – he used his size and strength to bully, and blood tests did come back that he was stoned. That probably is part of the reason for his stupid behavior.

      • jinx

        Darren Wilson worked for the jennings police department which is one of the most violent and racist departments in North County. It seems as the Ferguson police department’s reputation with their community was poor to say the least. Not a glowing record when you consider the source.

        • Mercyneal

          Look,pal. My friend’s son in Redwood City, California recently became a police officer. He’s African American. His brother is serving 33 years for kidnapping. My friend’s son became a cop because his brother chose a life of crime and he didn’t want to end up that way. You can’t blame Wilson for the sins of his mother.

          Geesh: Bill Clinton’s father was a violent drunk who beat up his mother.

          You seem to have a lot of misplaced anger and wrong information. This is most likely the wrong forum for you. You might want to go over to the MSNBC website. You’re not going to win any converts to your side here.

          • jinx

            I agree, but others are also looking into the background of Mike Brown’s dad as we speak. If we are going to look at Mike Brown’s records, Darren Wilson’s history is also fair game, including his divorce records, family history etc.

          • Mercyneal

            Darren Wilson’s entire family history was investigated by the Post two weeks ago.

          • jinx

            You mean the Post Dispatch reporter that tweets rumors?

          • DT

            Yes and obviously if he had any bombshells hidden his past, he would have never made it past the background checks for two different police departments. It’s amusing that people want to spin their wheels on tit for tat nonsense to attempt to deflect attention off of poor Saint Swisher Sweets.

          • jinx

            On a side note people want to believe that only guilty people lose their lives and all cops are good honest professional people. Darren Wilson has not publically made any comments and you will notice Ferguson’s police chief has distance himself from Darren Wilson. His whole focus is now on better training and equipment for his force.
            I am very interested to see how this plays out.

          • Mercyneal

            No, the police chief has NOT distanced himself from Wilson. There is absolutely no evidence of this. Stop posting false information.

          • jj

            Darren Wilson is a very quiet man – that’s what his friends and co-workers all say about him. He probably couldn’t handle the media-hoopla.
            Neighbors did say he allowed the neighborhood children to use his swimming pool. That’s a friendly action.

            Also Brown’s rap songs were racist and had lines like “whites on the bottom, blacks on top” and talked about someone’s “partner lying dead on the pavement” after being shot. Since police often have a partner in patrols he was likely referring to a dead policeman.

          • jinx

            The white kids play the same music here by the same artist.

          • Walter Malone

            Please stop posting false information. It’s incredible how you can just make things up without any evidences to back up your information. You’re just making assumptions on what you want to believe because you already made up your mind. Did you ever stop to ask yourself that the only reason you believe the cop shot an 18 year old young adult because the cop is white and Michael Brown is black? You know you would not be on here if it was a black officer who shot MB. MB wouldn’t even make national news if the officer was black. 5 black cops have shot 5 white youth this past month, but I’m sure you dont care unless it’s a white cop shooting blacks. Maybe you’re a racist so don’t give me some lame excuse. You’re only hurting yourself and the images of black communities knowing more then unlikely, based on evidences, that the officer shot MB in self-defense. Instead you decide to block out your common senses ultimately because Darren Wilson is white.

          • jinx

            Now you accuse me of racism. This case is about police brutality. Did Darren Wilson overstep his authority and did he use deadly force appropriately? He discharged his weapon in a congested neighborhood area midday in the presence of families including children. Was Mike Brown armed, no. Not one witness has stepped forward including Darren Wilson supporting any theories regarding resisting arrest, punching a police officer, or even charging Darren Wilson.
            The color of your skin does not matter one bit. Police are not given the duties of judge, jury and executioner. We do not use tanks and military gear on our citizens. This is America not some police state.

          • Walter Malone

            Not all evidences are released but you talk like you were there when you know of nothing. The witnesses that came forward to defend Michael Brown have been proven to be unreliable and also lying. Dorian Johnson can’t be trust based on his history of lying and previous crimes. Michael Brown was the aggressor in this case because he robbed a store a few minutes before. What do you think his mindset will be like? His blood must be flowing and paranoid for sure. His family doesn’t want to release his records because they’re are hiding something. You make it seem like the neighborhood Michael Brown lives in is all friendly and safe. His neighborhood isn’t the same neighborhood you see on the Hidden Valley Ranch commercials where children are smiling and playing. Neighborhoods like that are full of crimes and guns shots constantly going off. Brown was a 6’4 300 pound walking weopon. Darren Wilson shot Brown in fear for his life. Police haven’t released any evidences yet because they are playing it smart. They have a right to be silent because anything you say can be used in the court of law. Brown’s lawyers are idiots to not keep their mouths shut. The police have a dozen witnesses who have the same story as Wilson, but they won’t release it to the public or identify the witnesses either. Also, when you have people throwing rocks, bombs, and shooting at the police, they are going to use force. Those animals can’t even be civilized in a protest so they want to cause chaos. Let’s not even get into the looting and burning people’s businesses down. I would be out there shooting too if someone is trying to burn my office I worked hard to build. You don’t know the whole fact and I don’t either so stop posting false information. We all know this is about race. When do we see all hell break lose when it’s black on black killing??? Only when it’s a white person but blacks kill blacks daily. When a black person kills a white person, do you see it on CNN??? You’re perception is based what you see in skin color only. You know damn well if Michael Brown was white, you would care at all.

          • Chelly123

            Here we go again. Let’s see. Black on black crime is a facade created to make black people seem more violent, figuring that if people believe that black people are willing to kill each other they must be violent. This has been disproven so many times it hilarious to even read people as yourself Mr. Malone use it as a valid argument. Crime happens in pockets. Criminals usually commit crimes within their neighborhood and neighborhood are generally segreated. This is why the lesser mentioned white on white, hispanic on hispanic and such crimes also exist. Most crimes committed whites are comitted by other white people. Isn’t that interesting. I’m sure you’ll ignore that little fact since it doesn’t help your “black people are uncivilized vile creatures ” argument. By the way, if Occupy Wall Street could be handled without tanks (though police brutality was obvious there as well) so can the people of Ferguson.

          • Walter Malone

            Didn’t even read but two sentences of your comment bc it’s probably all the same response and excuses I’ve heard already. Numbers don’t lie!

          • Walter Malone

            People didn’t didn’t loot like animals at Wall Street. Protesters didn’t burn down other people’s businesses. The business that put food on the dinner table for their children. There wasn’t 11 year old kids during the Wall Street protest that went in stores to loot. Stealing liquor, hair weaves, and food from a grocery store solves nothing and isn’t not part of your rights. Armored vehicles were there because of thugs who were firing rounds, throwing motov cocktails, and rocks at officers. Why don’t you let those people fire some rounds at you and see if you defend yourself with firearms. What kind of a person would loot and burn down their own neighborhood? A thug. I guess these people don’t have jobs so they spend the whole night destroying. What’s more sad is that you think those thugs are gentle church going individuals who never do anything wrong. How would you like someone to loot and burn down your business? If you think that’s the right thing to do, then I advise you to check into a mental hospital to be treated. Please go get some help and put your Obama “care” insurance to use since you think that it is ok to loot and burn down hard working people’s business’. God Bless You

          • Chelly123

            I’m just gonna leave this here http://elitedaily.com/news/world/residents-stop-looters-friday-night/715036/. Whether you look at it or not is up to you. But it doesn’t change the fact that looter were the minority in a majority peaceful protest. That most looters were from outside the city. That residents physically blocked entrances to stores. As for the militarization of the police force it was uncalled for. From the very beginning they used force, even at the crime scene where people were simply asking for answers. Few people incited violence but everyone was targeted. A picture of a women holding her up while 4 or 5 police in military gear aim guns at her. Police in riot gear and tanks from the start. Funny how when the police commissioner started walking with the protestors things seemed much calmer. Not to mention the blatant disregard of the 1st admendment rights of journalist and citizens. Instead of looking out troublemakers they treated everyone like troublemakers. That’s when they took it too far. Were there idiot people doing idiot things? Yes. But I can’t contemplate how you can defend tanks rolling through the streets, dogs there to maul people “if necessary”. When the police started walking with people and defending them first instead of starting on the offense things dramatically died down. Instances that still happened were handled more quickly and less violently. No wooden or rubber bullets needed. The similarity between Ferguson and Wall St. is that they both were fighting for something. Both had people who were more about inciting violence whether it be against the police or looting and destroying businesses. Both had instances of police brutality. One group is known as a pact of animals and one is known as the victims of police brutality with a few people taking it too far. Why is one seen as a bad group as a whole and one seen as a good group with a few bad people in it?

          • Walter Malone

            Mane tha wright folkz bi hattin onna blk nigga. Wi dindit doin nuffin. Mi pplz wuz jus coolin wen Tha wright popo bi roll-in up on dem danks. Wi wuz jus burntin up public beezness. Wi jus popin otter pplz wit mi gun. Wuz tha prob iz? Mi homes jus tryna hit sum heir weaves an sum yachts 2 drankz fur tha free. Wi is jus throwin bombs. Datz all.

            Sorry, I didn’t read but the first two word of your comment. We know how dangerous and violent niggers are from the FBI crime statistics. I added to that report years ago when two thugs broke in my house while my girlfriend was laying on the couch to rob us. They thought I wasn’t home. I put two slugs in one guy with my 12g and blasted him to hell. The other guy dropped his bat and begged me to not shoot him. I’m sure he’ll rob someone else soon when he gets out of prison. Sorry, but I just can’t a trust nig, but I will trust a black person. Those people looting, shooting, and burning were niggers and not black. Huge difference. That’s why I support tanks and militarized tactical weapons there. I spend 4 months working in the US and the rest of the year in Singapore, but those 4 months are in the Deep South where most of the thugs are. Mike is just a typical thug. I know a thug when I see one and he’s one.

          • Chelly123

            Thank you for your honesty. I know that your bias will always cloud your judgement. It makes you only see the surface, only see the negative. I like to see the good in people so I held on to small hope that you would click the links. I knew they wouldn’t completely change your opinion. I’m sorry for your home invasion and I’m sorry it somewhat shaped your view of black people. I’ll ask this question though I’m sure it will be ignored. Occupy was mostly white, there’s proof that they vandalized banks threw metal and cement and Molotov cocktails at police. What are these “type” of white people known as? Anyway, my opinion still stands. No matter how much of a thug people what to believe Michael Brown is the law and our rights apply to everyone. A person who is trying to surrender should be apphended and put through the court system. The movie theatre mass murderer got treatment why couldn’t Michael?

          • Walter Malone

            Nobody deserves to die like that but from my perspective it looks like Darren Wilson shot Brown due to Brown’s intentional actions to Wilson. Wilson seems to have more credibility because of Brown’s image in that neighborhood. People that live there say gunshots are normal so I’m sure Wilson was cautious and in fear of his life being in that neighborhood. The movie theatre was a completely different scenario, and he will pay for his crime on death row I’m sure. I understand where you are coming from, and I apologize for my biase thinking due to experiences I’ve had with blacks while living in the United States. I know there are good black people out there too. Black people who have been taught that education can take you anywhere you want to be. Blacks who have parents that taught morals of what’s right and wrong. The truth is that many blacks aren’t brought up like that. I moved to the US when I was 12, and never met a black person before that. I have met and have friends in that are Caucasian in Europe and Singapore growing up. I’ve never even knew what racism was until I met a black boy who racially cursed me out my second day in the US. Not once have I live been a victim of racism by whites, but it’s only blacks that have been racist to me. Mainly ghetto black people. That’s where my prejudice feelings for blacks come from. I’m half Vietnamese and half white btw. Most whites know I’m not completely white, but I don’t get treated badly like ghetto blacks do because how I act and I chose to live my life. All I can say is wait until trial so we can see new evidences to see if this shooting is justified. If not, then Darren Wilson will pay for his crime, but those protesters that are causing more violence, chaos, and shootings are not going to get anything solve. These actions will not help them move forward but will only define their characters to citizens viewing the conflict on news media.

          • Sharon Wilkins

            You are so full of it. Even the blacks here think ferguson is crazy.

          • Chelly123

            OK….I haven’t read that too often. Mostly I’ve read that everybody agrees that the people who looted were wrong. That it was a foolish thing to do and doesn’t help in our hope to find justice and the truth. What I haven’t heard or read specifically from black people is that they think all of Ferguson is crazy.

          • Walter Malone

            When police are getting shot at from a large crowd, more then likely it’s going to be hard to identify the shooter. I’m sure the shooter would probably run off after shooting too. With people throwing rocks, motov cocktails, and guns shots, cops have to disperse the whole crow even if it’s just small group causing the problem. It’s a tactics that is normally use before it escalates into a large riot. I know that for a fact. It’s hard for police to stop looting when there 53 cops in the town also. When people are traveling there just to participate in the event, the main thing police do in that situation is to eliminate the source of the problem which is to disperse the crowd. Safety is the main thing at this point before getting to the looters. I don’t know if you own a business or not, but I know how it feels when people try to take away some of my livelihood and investment from you. Especially when you worked hard for years to build our own empire to be taken by a bunch of lazy thugs. Those people would have been shot if they would have done that to mine or my families’ businesses. Even some looters were armed with guns.

          • Chelly123

            Oh, and here’s an article from 2011 of Occupy Wall St. throwing Molotov cocktails, concrete chunks, metal pipes and lit roman candles. Still people call them animals. They’ll admit it was wrong, that they went too far but tanks won’t come in, the word animal will barely be used to describe them, won’t be considered thugs just passionate protesters. http://nypost.com/2011/11/03/photos-chaos-at-occupy-oakland-protests/

          • Walter Malone

            Mike was just an angel. He was just a sweet boy and a gentle giant. He went to church every Sunday and participated in Wednesday’s youth service too!!! He only robbed a store to give cigarillos to the 2 homeless men down the street. The Indian clerk could have known martial arts so Mike had to defend himself. He has a 4.0 and was 2 days away from starting college at UCLA. His friends were missionaries or from youth group so he was just a sweet innocent boy. His favorite hobby is to record church gospel music. He was just walking to his grandma’s house to bake a delicious pie to donate to the homeless shelter when an evil cops shot him for no reason.

          • Chelly123

            So because he wasn’t a perfect hman being he deserved to die? The point is that there’s a 99.9% chance this case is going to trial. Why? Because there’s enough evidence to prove neglect.

          • Sharon Wilkins

            That wasn’t the point. The point is they all lie about the facts and then want everyone to believe their bs. That’s the point.

          • Chelly123

            Who is they? The two construction workers who watched what went down, the several other witnesses who’s accounts all sound so similar?

          • Walter Malone

            And the truth is Darren Wilson will walk free like George Zimmerman. The end.

          • Christorchaos

            “Was Mike Brown armed, no. ”

            He might have been trying to be armed. With Wilson’s gun. Does the fact that no one has disputed that a bullet was discharged in the police officer’s cruiser give you pause at all where you might want to wait at least until all the facts come out before you blather ? Nah why do that when it is about the propaganda….,

          • jinx

            In eyewitness descriptions Mike Brown had both hands on the outside of the truck trying to pull away from the cop who had grabbed him by the throat and t shirt. The cop drew his weapon while in the truck and threatened to kill him. There was never an arrest attempt. Darren Wilson became angry because two jaywalkers ignored him and wouldn’t get out of the street.

          • Christorchaos

            Ludicrous. I am perfectly willing, as a rational person, to let the investigation proceed and thefacts come out as they will. If it turns out that Ofc. Wilson acted negligently or tortiously, I think should accept the consequences. But all I asked in my original comment was are you willing to accept the ambiguity of the situation if it runs adverse to the agenda you have. I received the answer is, “no”. You want to rush to judgment, and in the meantime condone riots looting and vandalism. You are a disgrace, therefore, to all decency

          • Sharon Wilkins

            Are you pretending to be stupid or are you just a pure idiot. Blacks in low income neighborhoods always defend the brothers. If Darren Wilson intentionally murdered an unarmed black male in broad daylight he needs to claim insanity if he is charged. Only an INSANE white person would go into a predominately black neighborhood in broad daylight and shoot an unarmed black man. So take your bs somewhere else. This officer has been crucified before any evidence has made it to court or otherwise. They have turned a black man who was caught on video strong arming a small Indian man into some kind of martyr. This officer’s life will never be the same regardless if he is innocent or not all because the media has fed all of you a bunch of lies that you take for granted and choose not to investigate on your own. Wake up and stop jumping on the far left bandwagon. Start thinking for yourselves.

          • Bigfoot Steve

            Darren Wilson has not publically made any comments

            Yes,it’s called not being an idiot. Just because folks like you feel the need to act stupid at the first sign of adversity doesn’t mean everyone else has to jump off that cliff with you. What should he do, steal a few rims and burn down a convenience store?

            And btw, strawman much, lol? You’re the only clown posting “all cops are good and honest” nonsense. Nobody else anywhere has ever made that claim lol. One thing we don’t have to speculate about is Mike Brown. But you keep ignoring that strong armed robbery and assault of an unarmed store clerk caught on tape,now, ya here? He was a gentle giant and don’t anyone forget it!

          • Stop the ignorance…

            “nonsense to attempt to deflect attention off of poor Saint Swisher Sweets.”
            I pissed myself reading that! Well said sir!

          • http://www.AverageBro.com/ ab

            You mean like how the cops in Florida had active Klan members on duty a few months back? THOSE background checks? Really?

          • http://www.AverageBro.com/ ab

            Chuck Johnson is looking into Brown’s STEPFATHER. The levels this piece of human filth will steep to in an effort to discredit a dead teenager are astounding.

        • Mercyneal

          Huh?

        • jj

          Well the Ferguson police solved a crime related to my sister and her husband who lived in Bridgeton.
          Last July (2013) they came home from work and their house was hot and air-conditioner running full blast – they found that one of their doors had been kicked open and stuff stolen from their house.
          About a week or so later, the Ferguson police notified them they had found her husband’s laptop and some other stolen goods. The police had stopped a car for something and asked to look at the laptop (amongst many goods the driver said he just bought at a garage sale), and the driver agreed. Well they opened it up and saw it had my sister’s husband’s name.
          The driver with the goods did later cooperate with the police in a sting which arrested the culprits. And because one of the culprits was found with a gun, which violated his parole, he ended up in jail.
          I should point out that the culprits in the burglary were white, BUT they were peddling their stolen goods in Ferguson.
          And the Ferguson police were very professional and did their job. She said she visited their station twice – and I asked her if she saw Darren Wilson but she doesn’t remember.
          Anyhow, there was nothing in her experience which showed they were anything but doing good and proper police work.
          Ferguson does seem to be a place for reselling stolen goods.

          If the department has a poor reputation among Ferguson people then maybe it’s because those people are angry about stolen goods being returned to their proper owners in the surrounding communities.

          Why do so many Ferguson residents, including the late Michael Brown, think they have the right to just take things from others?

          • jinx

            I live in one of the nicer areas in west county. There is a thriving illegal prescription drug trade here amongst the teens. Come on now.

          • jj

            But have you been assaulted by any of those teens. More from that homeowner’s letter:

            “I have a child who is a cop, so I have some bias. All 9 violent armed assaults against my family were committed by teenaged black males, so we have additional bias. The fact that no one in my family has ever been the victim of armed violent assault perpetrated by a white person adds another inconvenient truth to the mix.”

            “I have almost always lived in mixed neighborhoods. I have tried to treat people based on the content of their character. When my parents drove us through some Urban Renewal projects during the 1960s they always said, ‘This is where you live if you don’t go to school and do your homework.’ I don’t think they ever mentioned race.”

          • jinx

            I’ve never been assaulted but there are places where some of the locals get drunk and fight it out on the local burger restaurant parking lots. Offenses do happen, but the police department here is well connected in the community and with the school children at an early age. Our force is also trained better. If a kid or teen does get in trouble his parents have more resources and legal protection. People here would think the cop had gone mad if the same situation had occurred here regardless of skin color.

          • jj

            People in Ballwin and Ladue don’t shove police officers back in their cars and assault them and go for their guns do they? And do young men just walk in the middle of the road after casually robbing a store and disobey a policeman telling them to use the sidewalks?
            The whole scenario and all the destructive aftermath would have never happened if Brown didn’t steal those cigars. It was all his fault.

          • jinx

            No they speed up an down streets at 50 miles an hour while children are out, slash tires, poor herbicides on lawns and beds, steal liquor from the neighborhood stores, etc.

          • Opinionated2

            Wish the police were so efficient in my community. They don’t even bother investigating burglaries.

        • Bigfoot Steve

          Not surprising a community of racist thugs would have a low opinion of police now is it?

    • Steve Sprague

      I spent the better part of a week listening to scanner traffic of the police during the “riots”. Gunfire at the cops, bottles thrown at the cops, endless calls for people with weapons, dozens of arrests. As an officer, I know what I was listening to and it was not a “quiet community”. The media did a fantastic job of not reporting anything and trying very, very hard to shit all over Officer Wilson.

      • jinx

        Well I also know that one night alone there were 70 arrest with only 3 Ferguson addresses.

        • Steve Sprague

          Who cares where they live? If you are throwing bottles and shooting guns at the cops, you could live on Mars and it really doesnt matter. Point is, you can hear first hand whats going on. CNN, MSNBC etc. are NOT showing you whats actually happening.

          • jinx

            It matters if the reports are insinuating the violence is coming from the citizens of Ferguson.

          • Steve Sprague

            If they are shooting at cops and causing violence, the cops need to stop them, period regardless of where they live. It would also be nice if the Furgeson people would step up and stop these people doing violence in their name.

          • Opinionated2

            Reports always said looters were from out of town. I’d have been grateful to police for turning out to protect my community from strangers looking for trouble.

        • Bigfoot Steve

          But you conveniently know nothing about the nights earlier in the week where it was primarily local folks doing the rioting, lol.

          • jinx

            You mean the first night when the police were called and the Ferguson didn’t respond. oh and the arrest of some out of towners -Texas-that same night. hmmmm

          • MrAnonymous

            The first couple of nights were local (as in St. Louis) folks, but still the majority of the rioting was by people outside of Ferguson. The Post-Dispatch compiled the numbers of everyone arrested since Aug. 10, the day after the shooting, until Aug. 21. In all, 204 people were arrested. Of those, 9 were from Ferguson.

        • MrNishida

          Quote from another poster who explained this to me on another blog:

          “srdem65 MrNishida • 6 days ago

          If you know how their community travels, then it makes sense that those arrested are from “out of town”. They get one set of ID or have an arrest record in another place, maybe warrants for their arrest, they move in with a new baby-mama or grandma and never upgrade their ID. They don’t go to the DMV and let the authorities know where they are.”

          I ran this by my ex-wife of 23 years, who works as a counselor at ‘The Big House’ in our state ( no conservative she- voted for Obama twice, based strictly on skin color, because he ‘looked like her’, even though I warned her that all the man had was bumper sticker slogans, no record and no specifics, and that voting for someone just because they ‘look like you’ is one of the dumbest things anyone could do as a voter. Events have proven me right, now when I go visit our daughter my ex hangs her head in shame and tries to avoid me ).
          In other words, she has contact with these kind of slimeballs every day.
          I told her about the specifics in the post by srdem65.
          And she confirmed that every word of what he typed was accurate and true.

      • MrAnonymous

        Ferguson is ordinarily a quiet community, but you’re right that it wasn’t for those couple of weeks, at least during the night.

    • Laura Horton

      The only dirt they have uncovered so far on Wilson is that his mother had a criminal record. (I saw report she got nailed for ‘bad checks’ – paperhanging). Never saw she was crackhead. I don’t believe Wilson was a juvenile criminal, just a kid from a dysfunctional home.

      • jinx

        She was a “con artist” involved in identity theft, procured loans with the stolen identities, committed credit card fraud, mail fraud, unlawful entry, etc amounting to hundreds of thousands of dollars. His neighbors Sandy Finney and Mickelle Gordon Were surprised he passed a background check to become a police officer.

        • Hayley

          Why shouldn’t he pass. He is not his parents, unless they were spies or terrorists, he should be free of their crimes.

          • Bigfoot Steve

            But don’t you dare hold Mike Brown accountable for his own actions, lol.

          • jinx

            We don’t know. If you can post records about Brown’s father and make innuendos, let’s air air out all of the dirty laundry. Starting with Darren Wilson’s middle school/ highschool records/teachers/etc, childhood neighbors, divorce testimony, ex-wife interviews, tax records credit reports, juvenile records….you know the kind of background checks that are normally done for law enforcement. It seems that Jennings and Ferguson were light on that end. Not a thorough vetting process for sure.
            It doesn’t matter what side of the issue you fall on in this case mike brown is dead and Darren Wilson’s life is under a microscope.

        • Bigfoot Steve

          His neighbors Sandy Finney and Mickelle Gordon Were surprised he passed a background check to become a police officer.

          Which doesn’t mean anything other than these two people are as stupid as you are.

          Just curious…can fire melt steel in your world? I ask because I’ve noticed you like to use the same kind dishonest tactics 9/11 truthers

    • Opinionated2

      What’s to investigate if you already know about her record?

    • Bigfoot Steve

      Your description of Ferguson as another Beruit is also wrong. Ferguson
      is a quiet community, but people like you love to distort the truth

      it’s sad how difficult reading comprehension is for some. That wasn’t his description, that was the description of a journalist he spoke to. It wasn’t very quiet a few weeks ago,was it?

      • jinx

        He repeated the commit so it’s implied.

    • patrickhenry13

      hey you lowlife freak of a black racist,they tore apart the cop,including his family,not one freaking reporter is going after baby mike or his family,,whats a matter you afraid of their content..lowlife..

    • Bailee Barnes

      Well then, lets pull mom and dad brown’s records while we’re at it. That’s what you call EQUALITY ……right!

    • Walter Malone

      Wilson’s parents are still around and together. They live in texas and Wilson is very close with his father. Unless Michael Brown’s family who is trashy. Living in the ghetto is enough to say that his family is trashy. They know they are looking for a big payday and will get over their son as soon as they cash that check. We all know where crackheads hang out and where it’s sold and that is Ferguson’s ghetto where Michael Brown lived. Nice job looting and burning your community down anyways. The only record they have of Wilson so far is that he got ejected from a hockey game and put in the penalty box for 10 mins. Unlike, Michael Brown and some of his family who was in a real box made with bars.

      • 1Gandydancer

        Wilson’s mother is dead, about a dozen years ago. She was a criminal.

        Doesn’t make him one.

        • Walter Malone

          Didn’t say he was. Why don’t we just do a background check on both sides of the family and compare. I’m sure the results would be interesting

    • MrAnonymous

      Ordinarily Ferguson is a quiet community, but it wasn’t so every night for about two weeks. During the daytime, it was fine, but by the time night rolled around we went inside and stayed there.

    • Dink Newcomb

      Actually, Beruit was a BEAUTIFUL CITY until the muzzies decided that peace with other people was sacrilegious or something. Very quickly the whole city became the scene of insane violence and then the whole country. Even your poor, poor, pitiful Hamas strutted its violent gangster walk around the country for years,

    • mouse31

      I’m sure there’s nothing there. How do I know? Because if there was something in Wilson’s history that could make him look like a racist murderer, it would be plastered all over the news media. The media would trip over themselves for any tidbit of bad info on Wilson.

      Case in point, the media was running a story that Darren Wilson was a part of a police force that was disbanded for corruption and racial tensions. While in that department, Wilson had no disciplinary problems, and was offered to re-apply for the job after it was disbanded.

      That’s a pretty benign story. He never had any issues, but that didn’t stop the Washington Post from dedicating more than 2000 on an expose on Wilson’s past.

      Like I said. If anything were there, the media would have already been all over it.

  • Francisco Reyes

    According to this article: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/juvenile-court-michael-brown-had-no-most-serious-felony-convictions/article_43c9bbbb-356f-5ea6-b9e2-7dde7e3e5c83.html

    >>As a child, Michael Brown was never found delinquent of the juvenile equivalents
    >>of Missouri’s most serious felony charges, and was not facing any at the time he died, a court
    >>official said Wednesday.

    • jj

      Even if someone’s not guilty of the “most serious” it doesn’t mean his possible crimes still weren’t serious. “Most serious” doesn’t rule out the whole “serious” spectrum.

      Why don’t they just open up the entire record and allow the public to see for themselves? If his record is so minor then what are they afraid of?

      • Jay Bailey

        Why don’t they get an official statement from the other side? And let the public see for themselves? Start there, that side has given you nothing but lies. How did negative xrays and “released from the hospital the same day” turn into a “broken orbital bone” then turn into “oh that was just a picture showing you what it looks like” once proven to be a lie…all while no official statement…only Josie who wasn’t there?

        • Bigfoot Steve

          It wasn’t proven to be a lie. Don Lemon…BROWN SYMPATHIZER… telling you what you want to hear doesn’t mean it was a proven lie.

          • Jay Bailey

            It was proven a lie, image wasn’t the officers it was from the University of Iowa, not to mention video evidence of him walking around unharmed immediately after. Don’t be so dependent on their lies, they are feeding you BS. Just like the article above which the judge straight up told you there’s no 2nd degree murder situation.

          • jj

            You can still walk around with a swollen jaw, bruised face, etc.

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            We don’t need an Al Sharpton supporter to tell us what is truth and what is 100% bull****.

          • jinx

            Some not all want to believe that Mike brown was a violent criminal psychopath. To admit any wrongdoing on Darren Wilson’s part shatters their neat worldview, it could easily be them or theirs. Get rid of the bad cops.

        • jj

          It wasn’t the officer nor Josie who claimed he had an orbital blow out – that was some internet rumor/story which appeared out of nowhere.
          We do know that one side of his face was swollen and he did go to the hospital. It turned out nothing was broken.
          It would be good if the medical personnel or hospital would release a statement on this and/or if authentic pictures would be put up.
          I am guessing this info is for the hearing – I think it is set for mid-October.

          Also, we need to have evidence of the bullet fired in the car and its path as well as the FIRST autopsy report which would have the most evidence – including any evidence of gunpowder on his clothing that the second autopsy (done by someone hired by the family) didn’t have.

        • jinx

          Not to mention, has anyone interviewed the store clerk to get his side of the story. Mike brown lived in that neighborhood and the store clerk knew him. If he felt threatened, why would he follow mike brown outside without a weapon?

    • Bigfoot Steve

      As a child, Michael Brown was never found delinquent of the juvenile equivalents
      >>of Missouri’s most serious felony charges, and was not facing any at the time he died, a court>>official said Wednesday.

      Which doesn’t say anything other than he was never charged with the most serious charges of murder or rape for example. Is it your contention that committing felonies is okay as long as it’s not the most serious of felonies?And technically, it doesn’t even say that because he could have plead down from more serious charges to a lesser charge.

      The only reason they are being kept hidden is because there is something to hide. They should be released just like they are for everyone else. Don’t want to treat him different because of the color of his skin, right?

    • 1Gandydancer

      Is there a “juvenile equivalent” of murder? Please cite the law, if you can. Start here, perhaps: http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c200-299/2110000271.htm

  • MinasMorgul

    Really? You don’t have the decency to admit that your premise was wrong? And that Brown has no felony record? It’s ok to admit you were wrong, you know?

    • Adam Wood

      Actually, the court admitted today that Brown does have a criminal record.

  • 12mom16

    There is no such thing as a conviction in juvenile court in Missouri, unless the juvenile is charged as an adult, even if the juvenile is adjudicated guilty. There is also a diversion program.

    211.271. 1. No adjudication by the juvenile court upon the status of a
    child shall be deemed a conviction nor shall the adjudication operate to
    impose any of the civil disabilities ordinarily resulting from
    conviction nor shall the child be found guilty or be deemed a criminal
    by reason of the adjudication.

    2. No child shall be charged with a crime or convicted unless the
    case is transferred to a court of general jurisdiction as provided in
    this chapter.

    3. After a child is taken into custody as provided in section

    211.131, all admissions, confessions, and statements by the child to the
    juvenile officer and juvenile court personnel and all evidence given in
    cases under this chapter, as well as all reports and records of the
    juvenile court, are not lawful or proper evidence against the child and
    shall not be used for any purpose whatsoever in any proceeding, civil or
    criminal, other than proceedings under this chapter.

    4. The disposition made of a child and the evidence given in the
    court does not operate to disqualify the child in any future civil or
    military service application or appointment.

    (L. 1957 p. 642 § 211.270, A.L. 1969 p. 353)

    http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c200-299/2110000271.htm

    • Adam Wood

      VERY interesting. Thanks for that.

      • 12mom16

        In a nutshell- if not charged as an adult, one could never be charged with a crime or convicted… which is BS- and just what the Judge used

        • Jay Bailey

          So, is it not possible Mike Brown just had a clean criminal record?

          Does your son have a clean record? I do, wouldn’t want anybody getting legally scientific as to what’s missing and assassinating my character…it’s just clean…like yours I hope.

          • Bigfoot Steve

            So, is it not possible Mike Brown just had a clean criminal record?

            No,it isn’t. There never would have been a hearing if this were the case. Why would a judge waste time on a hearing about releasing records that don’t exist? He wouldn’t. And I hate to break it to you, but Brown assasinated his own character on camera when he robbed that store and assaulted the unarmed clerk. But I’m sure that was the first time he’d ever done something like that, lol.

          • Jay Bailey

            Really? So the judge can rule and declare Mike Brown had no felony convictions, wasn’t facing felony charges, and you can just say it’s false?? Meanwhile he was murdered, Officer Wilson is still alive and you’re not interested in checking him? Are you even up to date on all the lies these sites have reported? The recant of Dorian Johnson statement…lie. The broken orbital socket…lie. This mysterious 2nd degree murder charge…lie. Are you just desperate not to turn the eye towards the officer who was already predisposed to violence against blacks…fact. Ran and is in hiding…fact. Failed to call in a so called justified killing…fact. Used excessive force and left the body in the street uncovered too long…consensus. Whose sole word against 5 witnesses who say Brown had surrendered?

            People have lost all credibility making up stories.

          • 12mom16

            Guess you do not understand Missouri law. Read it- no charges or convictions unless bumped to adult court

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            Dorian “Thug” Johnson admitted they robbed the store.

            Dorian “Thug” Johnson has multiple arrests.

            Dorian “Thug” Johnson has an arrest warrant out for himself.

            Dorian “Thug” Johnson has been changing his story.

            Yeah, just like you Looney Libs and Left-Wing Negros said that George Zimmerman wasn’t attacked even though he had blood all over his face and head.

          • 1Gandydancer

            Dorian “Thug” Johnson is seen on the video returning the cigarillos handed to him by Brown to the counter.

            Dorian “Thug” Johnson was unequivocally cleared by the police of any charges in connection with Brown’s robbery.

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            He wasn’t cleared — he wasn’t charged.

            He admitted to robbing the store.

          • Mercyneal

            He said he didn’t have CLass A or B convictions but he said nothing about Class C felonies

          • 1Gandydancer

            Both strongarm robbery and assaulting a police officer are class B.

          • jinx

            I’m not soft on people who commit crimes, but the evidence so far presented makes Mike Brown’s shooting look like an execution. I would not want Darren Wilson or any cop with this type of record or predisposition working in my community or anyone else’s for that matter.
            We don’t kill our children for jaywalking. That’s worse than the death vans in China. Are we so afraid of people that look different we immediately go to the harshest extreme when dealing with others?
            I for one do not want to live in a police state and it’s frightening to watch tanks roll into a town of 20,000 people.
            The solution was simple. Get rid of the bad cop. It makes your entire division and profession look bad, no different than the so called thugs.

          • 1Gandydancer

            “We don’t kill our children for jaywalking.”

            If your “child” is 6’4″, 292 lbs and busts a policeman in the face while trying to take his gun, then charges him after the officer has exited his vehicle… practically any cop will kill your “child” for that, unless he survives the resultant wounds. What’s the color of the sky on -your- world?

          • jinx

            Is it so unbelievable that Wilson murdered this 18 year old teen? I have yet to see any reports filed by Wilson including statements by Wilson
            1. Brown resisted arrest
            2. Brown hit Wilson in the face
            3. Brown tried to take Wilson’s gun.
            All of the above are internet rumors without any statements from witnesses that were there at the scene of the crime. This cop killed an unarmed teen for jaywalking, discharged his weapon midday in a congested neighborhood with families and children, and has not made one public statement about the shooting. He is a bad cop, get rid of him. We do not live in a police state, were the cop becomes judge/jury/executioner.

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            What evidence ? The only rock-solid evidence we have seen is Valedictorian Brown stealing cigars and roughing up a store owner.

            Everything else is hearsay.

            We head he was shot in the back and the autopsies didn’t show that.

          • 1Gandydancer

            “…the officer who was already predisposed to violence against blacks…fact… People have lost all credibility making up stories.”

            Such self-insight.

          • 1Gandydancer

            It -may- have been the first time. If he had made a habit of robbing convenience stores he would have had a hard time graduating even from the hellhole he attended. He was behaving really stupidly on the day of his death, and it may be linked to the fact he is reported to have become unexpectedly religious in the period just before, with a baptism and seeing visions in the clouds. I’m suspecting a brain malfunction, whether physical or chemical to be determined, maybe, if someone looks for it.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/genx-ed Robert Dobbs

    Do you ever get tired of lying? You are a joke.

  • patrickhenry13

    can at least one reporter get the truth out,what this kid was really like,what his family was really all about,what changed ferguson into a inner city cesspool,do some freaking reporting,

    • Jay Bailey

      Looks like the police dept is what the issue is…see Jennings PD before Ferguson

      • Bigfoot Steve

        Yep, it’s the police dept.’s fault Brown and his buddy robbed that store.

        • Jay Bailey

          Jennings PD was shut down before that.

          • Mercyneal

            What’s that got up do with brown robbing the store owner?

      • patrickhenry13

        why lie…if my brother told me such a easly proven wrong lie i would have kicked his arse for the next week,when the government built free housing for inner city rats is when ferguson went bad,when the welfare rats they packed into that houseing commited crimes they went to jail..that they got stopped and arrested more often is because they attracted more attention..much like blackwater going into baghdad and cleaning out that hellhole scum holes like ferguson need to be cleaned out..you assualt a cop,you get dead,,should be the law of the land…it would take you mental morons about a year to figure out police arn’t your mommy..

        • Jay Bailey

          Nope, police killing unarmed black teens, leaving them in the street, making up lies of “he assaulted me, he was grabbing my gun, the gun went off, but oops no residue on his hands” and generally attempting a cover up tends to outrage people…simple

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            Maybe you should be outraged over the drugs….the 18 blacks killed every day by other blacks…and the random fathering of children by promiscuous black men and women.

          • jj

            I’m outraged by the unarmed black teens perpetrating the “knock out game” where they ambush a person walking near them and bash them on the head. People have been killed and brain-damaged by these “unarmed black teens.”

          • patrickhenry13

            12% of the population killing 35% of the police sounds like a epidemic to me..suicide by cop is also a epidemic..you hit a cop you get death,just that simple..they arn’t your mommy they arn’t your daddy.they are the law..they arn’t there for you to test,they arn’t there to prove you can do what you want,they are there to uphold the law..lining up every freak in front of their family and shooting them would put a stop to your freakyness.i would like all cops to have cameras,in every police force that does carry them,this police brutality claim has gone down as much as 80%..anytime there is a camera running the charges of police brutality have not stood up..your liars,your theives,your rapists,your killers..your the scum of the earth and you need to be exterminated…now!!!!!

          • jj

            What about these unarmed black teens killing or wounding (even causing brain damage) in the so-called “knock out” game. These are unarmed teens who bash and unsuspecting stranger in the head and sometimes keep bashing and kicking them when they are down. Some of the victims have fallen and smashed their heads on the pavement and died.
            In St. Louis an elderly Vietnamese immigrant was killed by “unarmed teens” this way in 2013.

      • Income and Dividend Guru

        Yeah, meanwhile 6,000 blacks kill other blacks every year. That’s 18 a day. Meanwhile, the race thugs worry about the 1 or 2 shot by cops under questionable circumstances.

        • jinx

          We hire police officers, not rogue cops or death vans. Get rid of the bad cops.

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            Get rid of the ass-sniffers like Sharpton.

  • Lucie Loing

    I am saddened by the rush to judgement towards Officer Wilson. The public doesn’t have the whole story and yet because the officer is white and the victim black then it some have automatically determined that the officer is guilty of murder. Those that riot and protest will only be satisfied by a conviction and execution.
    Why haven’t we heard seom Officer Wilson? – He is following what every other witness should have done and gave his account to the police instead of the media.
    Dorian Johnson is an eye witness to Michael Brown’s murder. – His version of the event does not make sense and he keeps embellishing and changing his account which completely undermines his credibility.
    – How could the officer choke him from inside the car with one hand? Michael could have freed himself just by pushing against the car. He had the physical leverage to get away from the officers grasp.
    – Dorian said that Officer Wilson “opened his door with such force that it almost knocked the wind out of me except that the door hit Big Mike and barely touched me.” Really? If it barely touched him how could it almost knock the wind out of him?
    – A video was posted on You Tube by Ace Johnson. Many of the people recorded say ” he was shot for no reason. His hands were up” and every one of those statements is made by people who say they didn’t see what happened. Ace admits that he came out when he heard the shots. The woman who states “he was shot for no reason” says she was in the shower when the shots rang out.
    But, in the background audio there is a man who witnessed the event that said Michael was running towards the officer.
    This is a very sad situation for everyone involved. My heart breaks for Michael’s family. My heart also breaks for Officer Wilson IF he is exonerated. All are in my prayers.

    • Jay Bailey

      There’s all kinds of evidence that supports the witnesses. Meanwhile only one side is staying quiet on purpose, with everyone else making up lies and excuses for their side.

      • Bigfoot Steve

        Meanwhile only one side is staying quiet on purpose

        Yeah..the side with the brains, lol.

        • Jay Bailey

          The side that’s guilty…lol

          • 12mom16

            sure jay…whatever you say…

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            Guilty of what ? Ridding the country of 1 more criminal thug ? If he wasn’t killed a few weeks ago, he’d be dead in a few years anyway. The guy was another waste from the ghetto.

      • jj

        Actually the autopsy evidence disproves all the witness who claimed Brown was shot in the back.
        THERE ARE NO BULLET HOLES IN HIS ENTIRE BACKSIDE.
        Further some of the “witnesses” claimed Brown was shot as he lay on the ground – yet you couldn’t get bullets into the front of someone lying face down on the pavement. DUH!

        • Income and Dividend Guru

          You’ll only confuse the 70-IQ Junior High dropouts who are future Democratic Party leaders.

      • Income and Dividend Guru

        No, the witnesses have given conflicting reports. And we know that Valedictorian Brown was a criminal thug, who strong-armed a convenience store only minutes earlier.

        Leave it to the Black Left to rally around Al Charlatan and Jesse ackass, 2 race-baiting thugs who need a foot shoved up their respective asses.

      • MrAnonymous

        Quiet to the media. I would be shocked if investigators haven’t interviewed him multiple times to get his side of things.

    • Laura Horton

      I think we can discount Dorian Johnson’s accounts. He has been caught in soooo many blatant lies (shot in back while running away first, officer stood over him and fired more, pleading not to be hurt, officer grabbed him by throat and pulled him to car). Witnesses and forensics have blown holes in his various tales.
      I think the conversation caught on someone elses video is damning. Wasn’t to news or police but a friend or at least a neighbor, had no idea he was being recorded so had no reason to be embellish or omit, while it was happening so no time to have his experience impacted or add doubt by listening to any other accounts, no time to plan what he’d say.
      When asked why Brown was in one place if running away the speaker confirms the officer’s account by telling his listener that Brown was running at the cop.
      No one lies in that situation.
      The whole thing is tragic. The officer will probably wonder if he could have done something differently for the rest of his life. My heart breaks for any mother who has to bury a child. No matter how or why they died.
      But – don’t rob stores, humor the cop and move to the curb, don’t even pretend to be a thug – it doesn’t do you any favors in life. Police have a tough job and need to make split second decisions whether they need to react to protect themselves. Just because of the job they shouldn’t have to react differently than you or I if (and it is still not confirmed) a HUGE man is rushing at you in a menacing manner. I’d empty my gun into him, but that may just be my reaction.
      Unless Brown was known to the police thru previous ‘situations’ the officer had no way of knowing Brown was 18. And IF he had assaulted the officer moments earlier Wilson had every reason to assume Brown meant harm. Wilson is smaller than Brown and if he were being beaten he had no reason to assume the neighbors would run to his aid rather than watch ‘one of their own’ fight him. The us vs them mentality in Ferguson was outrageous and constantly fueled by press, sharpton, the WH.
      If law enforcement is too white more blacks need to finish high school, stay felony free, and go through the police academy knowing the pay is low and the risks are high. Where do they think police come from? There is no Police Fairy Godmother who taps white people with a wand and puts them in a blue uniform. There are many minority police so all minorities are being ‘kept’ from the force.
      I’ve seen too many cases where the police behave atrociously (the choke hold case in NY). Leading police on a 45 min car chase tho you have to KNOW that when they catch you they are gonna be pissed.

    • David Saint

      im even more appalled about the rush to judgement about the unarmed person, and using his past to justify the present. why not just torch an ex hooker for no reason and say she had it coming

  • Kenny

    Charles C. Johnson is a lying sack of elephant crap. Slandering Michael Brown’s name by allegedly he faced second-degree murder charges and that was proven to be a big fat LIE!! Disgusting low life conservative two-bit conman and BS artist!

    • Income and Dividend Guru

      You mean like Al Sharpton, who tried to frame 3 innocent white men by linking them to the bogus rape of a lying black teen ?

      Except Charles isn’t referred to as a ‘civil rights activist’ and given a TV show by MSNBC.

      Al Sharpton….a race-baiting POS if ever there was one.

      • Kenny

        Al Sharpton didn’t try to frame 3 innocent white men for raping Tawana Brawley. That fault lies with her not Rev. Al. He got conned like everyone else. Nice try Mr. Klansman.

        • Mercyneal

          Yes, he did. Ever heard of the Steve Pagones case? Sharpton was convicted of fraud and defaming Pagones for falsely claiming he was one of the rapists. You might want to read up on that case.

          Sharpton was an adult male. Brawley was a child. She REFUSED to be interviewed by the police or a prosecutor AT ANY TIME on the case. Come on- if she had been raped don’t you think she would have wanted justice? Sharpton wasn’t conned by her. He knew she was a con artist and that’s why he wouldn’t let her speak to a prosecutor or anyone else. Have some common sense. An adult male is supposed to have reasoning powers.

          • Kenny

            Al Sharpton was convicted of defamation. But he was convicted of fraud in the Tawana Brawley case. Tawana Brawley was a child with parents and guardians. Rev. Al was not her legal guardian. How do you know Rev. Al knew she was a con artist?

            “An adult male is supposed to have reasoning powers.” Millions of adult males and females are conned everyday but other men, women, children, politicians, ministers, etc..

            Question – Have you ever been conned by anyone since you’re been an adult?

          • Mercyneal

            Actually, no I haven’t been conned by anyone as an adult. But the DA’s office figured out pretty quick that Brawley was a con artist, by the fact that Brawley wouldn’t talk to them. Read the book on the Brawley case. It was pretty evident to everyone that she was a con artist by her actions… A five year old could figure out she was lying. You must be the only person in the US who thinks Sharpton was conned by Brawley.. you are wasting energy on this…. and you are also in denial, enabling and molly coddling Sharpton, who is himself a con artist who orchestrated the Brawley con.

          • Kenny

            You have never been conned once or taken advantage of since you’ve an adult. LMAO! That’s a lie and you know it. I don’t have conservatives with people that lie. Have a nice day.

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            We may or may not have been conned. But again, Sharpton WASN’T conned. He knew there had been no kidnapping…no rape….no assault.

            So don’t keep telling us he was ‘misled.’ It’s like someone getting the rope for a lynching telling me that he didn’t know it was going to be used to hang someone, he thought it was to play jump rope.

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            Hey Kenny….Shartpon was told early in The Hoax by his own assistant that Tawana Brawley wasn’t kidnapped or raped.

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            Exactly Mercy. Sharpton also helped Glenda Brawley escape NY State as a fugutive rather than risk testifying about The Hoax.

        • Income and Dividend Guru

          You sure you want to go toe-to-toe with me Sherlock on that race-baiting filth known as Al Sharpton ? You will be flushed down the toilet like a stale black turd, my friend.

          Sharpton DID frame 3 white men. HE coached her and the lying skank mother. HE knew there was no rape. HE knew she was out partying. So don’t tell me that poor old 70-IQ race-baiting neanderthal Sharpton was misled by some lying street ho. Sharpton did the crime, now he has to do the time.

          • Kenny

            I got “toe-to-toe” with inbred racist bigoted Tea Klux Klan clowns like you everyday .

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            The KKK was affailiated with the Democratic Party, Kenny. When you graduate from high school, you’ll know that.

            I’m a Republican. You know, the party that freed the slaves and never supported Jim Crow segregation.

            Another 70-IQ liberal.

          • Kenny

            The KKK that was affiliated with the Democratic Party were conservatives.

            The Republicans that freed the slaves were liberals.

            Now the sides have switched. Democrats are now liberals. Republicans are now conservatives.

            Try to keep up Mr. Tea Klux Klan Man :-)

          • Income and Dividend Guru

            And once again you left the Sharpton debate, proving you are like Seargant Schultze: You Know Nutin !!!

    • Mercyneal

      Yeah, talk to Steve Pagones about what Al Sharpton did to him. Made up a crazy lie that Pagones had raped Tawana Brawley. A court found Sharpton guilty of defamation.

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  • Joan Maglitto

    Im curious as to how many arrests have been made of the looters .Since so many didn’t cover their face.Of course some of the cowards did ,but I’m sure the ones that didn’t will help out law enforcement .News stations have lots of pictures of them so it shouldn’t be too hard to convict them.

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  • MoIIy_Pitcher

    Old-scholol journalist pitbull.
    Everybody wants the truth. Here’s a guy who is willing to work his butt off to get to it. Very refreshing. Thank you.

  • Marcy Brown

    Ok, so Michael Brown wasn’t convicted of a “serious felony” while he was a juvenile. Oh, ok. So what was he convicted of? Why not release his record so the rest of us can decide if his conviction was serious or not. I’m not taking someone else’s word for it. Show me the facts. Just release the records already. What are you afraid of? Why hide the truth? You know that the MB fan club is going to uphold him as a saint no matter how crappy he behaved. That’s why they continue to rally around him despite that he steals and assaults people.

  • Michael

    STL Post Dispatch is recieved court transcript, are you getting a copy as well? would love to ask jeremykohler where he got his headline from… with the transcript

  • Hal

    Never heard of Charles C. Johnson until today. I’ve been investigating how the rightwing-nut information machine works and this site fits a pattern that seems pretty standard. One reporter claims he heard something from a source-usually conveniently not identifiable. Once it’s posted it can be used by other rightwing-nut sites as a quasi-fact and off it goes. As
    long as the narrative fits the rightwing-nut worldview, it will resonate in the minds of teabaggers everwhere. Result, more clicks for everone! The truth be damned-that’s mainstream media crap!

    • Mercyneal

      Huh?

    • 1Gandydancer

      If what Johnson was told is untrue that will be revealed by what’s in Brown’s juvenile criminal jacket. Which Johnson is for making public, as required by law, and which you would like to suppress. That you think you can simultaneously pose as a defender of the truth indicates brain damage. Are you on the same stuff Brown was on?

  • John Fullbright

    Thanks for covering this story Chuck! I’d bet Mike Brown has a few drug issues on his record that his family would rather we not know about. And why is no one talking about the drugs he’s was most likely on when he went on his rampage that day. The guy was looking for trouble.

    I saw one video with a black guy saying “there is NO WAY this guy would be billy-bad-ass attacking an armed officer!” And this is exactly what happened!

    What was he on? Bath Salts? It would explain much. The story about pot being in his system was a diversion and I highly doubt anyone at the STL County Coroner’s office gave this info out. Everything about this case has been tightly sealed.

  • John Fullbright

    So where have the big league lawyers gone… you know Crump and Parks? Their faces were everywhere but suddenly they are gone…. poof! I see the local C-team lawyer yapping about the juvie records up no Crump or Parks? What gives guys?

    Do they know something we don’t????

    • http://www.AverageBro.com/ ab

      They are still there in Ferguson. Just because the MSM doesn’t cover something (ie: Sharpton speaking out against black on black crime) doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

      • Income and Dividend Guru

        Sharpton has spoken out against black-on-black crime as often as he has apologized for his disgusting role in The Tawana Brawley Hoax. This race-baiting neanderthal isn’t fooling anybody.

  • Robert Trelka

    Lets just stop questioning our cops. Black or white we’re all in this thing called life lets live it with out killing each other.

  • http://www.AverageBro.com/ ab

    You, sir, are an idiot and a racist. Is it beyond your comprehension than the “two unnamed law enforcement sources” are just passing along hearsay or have a bias against Brown and want to further discredit him to help Brown go free? Did that ever enter your pea sized brain? Of course it didn’t.

    • Income and Dividend Guru

      Bias against Brown to help Brown go free ? Are you on LSD ?

      • http://www.AverageBro.com/ ab

        You surely know I meant Wilson.

  • Income and Dividend Guru

    If President Obama had a thug for a son, he’d be Dorian Johnson.

    • David Saint

      and yours would be Tim McVeigh

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  • Christorchaos

    If Judge Levy is saying that he had no A or B felony convictions, that is being disingenuous because there are no convictions in juvenile court. Nonetheless, C&D felonies, plus A and B misdemeanors are relevant. What is less clear, in terms of relevancy, are juvenile status offenses (eg truancy, incorrigibility, release of custody).

    Some info for you on Missouri juvenile law. Technically there are no “charges” or “convictions” in juvenile court. In the beginning, a perpetrator is arrested just like an adult. But then he is brought to court and the Juvenile Officer decides whether to “refer” the matter to Juvenile Court. This is called a “referral”. You will never hear the words “guilty” or “convicted” or “sentenced” in juvenile court. The judge will hear the evidence and then pronounce that the allegations of the Juvenile Officer are “sustained” or “not sustained”. That being said, the standard of evidence on the underlying criminal matter is still “beyond a reasonable doubt” just like it is in adult court. (Minor things like truancy can be proven by clear and convincing evidence. These are called “status offenses”.)

    What is most important by far in the Wilson case is what really happened inside that squad car. But what seems relevant from the juvenile record, for background purposes only, is what sort of character was Wilson likely dealing with. The Brown defenders opened this issue up by painting him as a gentle giant. To determine the character Brown, you need to look first at any felony allegation that was sustained. Then you need to look at misdemeanors that were sustained. Then you look at matters that were referred, because some juvenile officer thought that it was important for the minors “best interest” that a judge here about those incidences.
    But also of interest, from a commonsense point of view is the arrests that were made. There should be a record anytime he was brought to juvenile court detention on an arrest. Sometimes they are held for 24 hours, sometimes they are released to a parent if a parent shows up. Sometimes the arrest has a solid basis, but the juvenile officer just decides for a host of reasons, administrative and personal to the child, that a referral is not necessary. All of these things can help support Brown’s character or can detract from it. But we will never know, unless Judge Levy releases ALL of it.

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  • Chelly123

    You make absolutely no sense. You pick and pull “facts” that you can manipulate. Well let’s talk you can’t. Brown was a decent distance way when shot a number of times. He was unarmed so was no threat to the Officer Williams at the moment. He was shot several times with his hands up, a sign of surrender. The LAW that you probably fight tooth and nail to defend (unless we want it to apply to a young black male) says that everyone who is suspected of breaking the law has the right to a trial and an attorney. We can take everything that Officer Wilson has said as fact. But the big looming question is why was Michael Brown shot unarmed, feet away from this officer and from all accounts (and an autopsy that supports) his arms raised in surrender. One shot, maybe two during this struggle (since we’re taking Officer Wilson’s word) would constitute as self defense. The other 4+? What is your defense to that Mr. Johnson? That Mike Brown was gangbanger and deserves to die? Or that his alleged “violent record” make it more likely that whatever Officer Wilson’s story is (I haven’t read anything about his statement having something about justifying his shots outside his vehicle. Not to mention that Miknever e Brown’s previous record if any would

    • Sandy

      Got to “Chelly”‘s: “He was unarmed so was no threat to the Officer Williams at the moment.” and stopped in wonderment??!!……..

      Dummy. Brown was 6’03” 300-something and had minutes earlier robbed a shop. Then had punched a policeman who directed him to leave the street. -How do you “Chelly” handle a 6″03″ 300-something who’d just robbed a shop??? And when did the “hands up” thing get proven? The exam proved he was shots were from the front without arms raised.

      “10 hours ago” posting your comments indicates you willfully remain ignorant.

      • Chelly123

        Clueless “Sandy”. Michael’s weight and height doesn’t matter when he is running AWAY from the person who at the time is claiming self defense. Second, Officer Wilson knew about the alleged robbery and was heading to the scene. Nobody asked why he found it pertinent to stop on the way there and talk to these terrible jaywalkers (who were suspects for the robbery but he was NOT aware). That’s a question I have. Admittedly, I live in Philly so I may have a completely different view of jaywalking. Third, if you’ve even been remotely following the case “Sandy” you would have read a number of times that just about every witness has said that Michael’s arms were up and bent in a surrender position. But I’m sure you’ve found that every witness to the crime is somehow uncreditable. So, let me give you some more evidence. The autopsy that was done said that a graze wound on his left arm supports the notion that either his arm was raised in a surrender position or that he was shot from behind. Either way that would be wrong. Shooting a suspect that’s trying to surrender or shooting an unarmed person who is running AWAY. What’s the excuse for that one “Sandy”? Even if I manage to give Officer Wilson the benefit of the doubt for whatever happened around/inside the car, what happened outside is just too sketchy. At the very least he should be going to trial

  • Firs Namendmen

    BREAKING: CHARLES C*CKSUCKER JOHNSON JR HAS BEEN FOUND! http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/September-21-2012-23-13-48-image.jpg