LAWSUIT: Why We Sued St. Louis County Court To Get Michael Brown’s Juvenile Arrest Records

Got News Sues To Get Michael Barnes's Juvenile Records Ferguson

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Got News filed a lawsuit against St. Louis County court today to obtain the juvenile arrest records of Michael Brown after the court denied his request. Brown was killed in a controversial altercation with Officer Darren Wilson.

Got News editor-in-chief Charles C. Johnson was told by two different law enforcement sources from St. Louis that Brown had a juvenile arrest record but that that report has been kept from the public.

There are rumors that Brown was also a member of the Crips, a notorious gang and that his death may have even brought two gangs—the Crips and the Bloods—together.

To find out if those police officers are correct requires seeing Brown’s juvenile arrest record, which ought to be freely available given that he is dead and therefore has no right to privacy remaining. Press reports say that Brown has no “adult arrest record” but how could he have one? He was only eighteen for a few months.

Knowing the truth about Brown’s past will help us gauge the credibility of his parents and family who have called him a “gentle giant.” Brown’s strong-arm robbery of a shopkeeper would seem to put the lie to this narrative but it remains. Brown’s friends—who have changed their story already—are similarly untrustworthy in the accounts they have given.

The only thing that we do have is the public record but unfortunately the St. Louis County court doesn’t want it released. It’s irresponsible to keep that information from the public if it changes the public’s mind of the character of Michael Brown.

It’s especially irresponsible given what’s happening in Ferguson.

Never mind that a police officer has been forced to flee the state. Never mind that there has been a riot going on where people from across the country have threatened that officer’s life. Never mind that a CNN reporter has all but drawn a map to officer Darren Wilson’s home.

Got News is always going to stand against lawlessness in favor of justice.

There are also serious questions of racial equality around the release of deceased juveniles’ records in the state of Missouri.

Got News’s lawyer, John C. Burns, compared the suit to Smith v. Harold’s Supermarket, a 1984 case whose facts seem eerily to the Ferguson shooting.

William L. Halstead, a white, 18-year-old stole a packet of cigarettes. A security guard beat him so hard he broke his neck, became paralyzed, and died 19 days later. Halstead’s juvenile arrest record was released as part of a wrongful death suit filed by his family, much to their protestation.

It went to the appellate court held and then stopped. Later the Missouri Supreme Court adopted the appellate court’s reasoning in a case in 1990 (State v. Mahurin).

Apparently, the records of dead blacks cannot be released but those of dead whites may be—at least according to the St. Louis County.

What could be more racist?

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Lawsuit to Release Michael Brown Juvenile Record

  • http://sparklepony.blogspot.com peteykins

    It’s funny when you write about yourself but use the word “we.”

    • wake_me

      maybe he is talking about him and his lawyer?

    • Diamanical Johnson

      I have no objection to the word ‘we’ used in there.
      I know damn well and you do too whether you want to admit it or not that this guy has a juvenile record, and my guess is that it is extensive.

    • lordpeckerwoodfive

      he hears voices..

  • Mercyneal

    Good luck! You’re going to need it!

  • Jourden

    Finding out if those arrested for the riots is members of these gangs might give insight also.

    • Jersey JiN

      Right, because something that may or may not possibly have anything to do with Michael Brown should offer substantial credibility. Especially with Michael Brown himself not actually being on trial at all here, it makes perfect sense to tie something irrelevant to his character.

    • Ruki

      It’s a protest not a riot.
      People arrested for the looting weren’t even from Ferguson, which was a SMALL amount. (Who cares if protestors were protecting the stores either, right?)
      Majority of the others were arrested for protesting, which should be illegal but isn’t.

  • Joe Astroturf

    I Can’t believe he’d dare do this . Doesn’t he know that Eric Holder is going to hide these things. Holder said Wilson never ate his vegetables when he was young and is investigating further. Also he saw a purple headed kid in 3rd grade and thought about hitting him with a spit ball.

    Obama burnt my Bible”. on youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQB2qQ_WowY

  • Chantal

    The truth has no agenda ! Release Michael Brown’s juvenile records . There should be a lot more journalist doing this .

    • Tired of stupid people

      I agree Chantal but the powers at be think its better news to not do this so when the next issue happend more news can be made. In the press powers at be eyes racial hate makes more news then the truth and the truth can very well be that there are hidden records to attest to the character or lack thereof of Michael.

      • macgeneral

        FYI the term is “powers THAT be”.

        • magormissabib

          they sure have scrutinized the cops past havent they . and found nothing.

          • macgeneral

            Uh he’s a public servant paid by the people. As I’ve stated elsewhere his performance is subject to public record. A private citizen, like you for example, not so much.

            Sure he’s been scrutinized – he discharged his weapon multiple times resulting in a death. Scrutiny is assumed.

            Neither of these things have much to do with proper use of the term “powers that be” which is what my reply was alluding to.

          • magormissabib

            Oh right. his record of service is public record. I think you can also look up anyones record online. but a minor maybe not. thanks.

          • http://www.disqus.com/legal Justin James

            a deceased minor’s record can be released to the public if it has no bearing on a prosecution of an individual. It’s the sunshine act…. part of the Freedom of Information Laws….

          • magormissabib

            good to know so the police are acting our of order as usual

          • Grant Armbruster

            You lose all privacy rights upon death. Even your SS# becomes available. Also as they pointed out that the state unsealed JV records when it suited their case. So yes PTB are keeping the records closed for no apparent reason other than their own agenda.

          • Walter Malone

            If they have nothing to hide then Michael Brown’s family would have already released the records. Apparently they are hiding something important and they know it show his true character. Not the “gentle giant, church going boy” but a young adult is who is criminal and a thug that like to rob people and tries to kill cops. It’s obvious but arguing with blacks is like arguing with a tree stump

    • Reverend Bacon

      The Conservative Treehouse tried to get St. Skittles’ information, with mixed success only. The problem there was that MDSPD never filed reports, so hopefully this will be simpler. St. Swisher was a giant, but “gentle” seems a bit unlikely.

    • Maxima

      Release killer cop Darren Wilson’s juvenile record.

      • DeathMerchant

        For what?? You would find absolutely nothing. What kind of uninformed idiot are you?? The last thing any municipality wants is a police officer with a record that would make it easy for any attorney to discover and file a major lawsuit against them. So they are all vetted to the nth degree by several different agencies not to mention the psych eval process. You should be a little more discreet in the wording of your statements. The use of the phrase “killer cop” exposes you for the biased rabble rouser that you are.

    • Thomas Alascio
    • Tammie Marshall

      well they’ve been released NOTHING

    • FREEManning

      There is no actual proof that a criminal juvenile record even exists for Michael Brown. There are also several “Michael Browns” in the Missouri system database, and one of them has an adult criminal record. I can imagine some hotheaded blogger or over-cafinated cop has misconstrued the facts here. But hey, gossip is fun.

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  • jj

    “He was only eighteen for a few months.”

    Does anyone know when his birthday was?
    Also if he was involved in a manslaughter then there’s the name of someone he killed out there, and relatives of that person. Wish they’d speak up if so.

    • Jaclyn Rensel

      seriously? Youre using a Zodiac sign to substantiate your argument? Are fucking stupid?

    • Jimmy Johnson

      Bet he won’t charge again !!!

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  • Get-Real

    Trial by jury? Fire your attorney. ROTF!!!

    • Mercyneal

      Papers file lawsuits all the time to get records unsealed.

    • Tired of stupid people

      guest your wrong. If he was involved he most likely got a slap on the wrist and let go under his parent’s care. Not that they raised him before or after properly.

      • Entheogen

        Your racist projection is showing.

        • Jimmy Johnson

          No it’s not. If raised properly, he would not have committed the strong armed robbery or assaulted an officer or the law while trying to take his gun. That’s not Parenting 101 there.

          • Entheogen

            Jeffrey Dahmer proves your parenting argument wrong.

          • aboveexcuses

            your BEST parenting has little impact on a psychopath, unless you’re implying MB was a psychopath…you’re not though right?

  • Christine Williams

    Really hoping you win your case. I really feel there is more to this so called gentle giant! Praying the truth comes out!

  • Judi Lutz Woods

    If they release the records you just gave Browns family a lawsuit they will SURELY win….my guess in the MILLIONS

    • Slimcharles

      Why? The deceased wouldn’t have a right to privacy in this case. Or let me ask that…. who’s privacy would be violated at this point?

      • Entheogen

        If privacy concerns of surviving family members comes into play, then FOIA no longer applies in most cases.

        • Grant Armbruster

          So you are saying his mother or father or brother or sister were involved in the murder. And that the court does not have a pen that they can redact things with?

      • Jac

        Why is Michael having his funeral in a church that holds 5000 people in Ferguson. He didn’t even live in Ferguson

        • aboveexcuses

          more donations to help the family with living expenses. Unless you don’t think a donation will be collected.

    • Tired of stupid people

      Why Judi what can they sue for that every American cant sue back for. If this ends up true then it can be used against the so called parents claims he was a good boy from an upstanding family. If they do sue we can sue them for the lies and causing the uprising of people that never knew them or Michael. Lets see a class action suit against the parents for mental and emotional suffering American people suffered at the hands of their lies. I rather hope they do sue I want a piece of their action right back at them. The stores looted and people beat up should also be suing these animals parents as we speak.

      • Judi Lutz Woods

        Yes I sure am tired of stupid people myself. We have LAWS in this Country that protect our youth. A juvenile record is SEALED for a good reason. Many young kids get into trouble doing stupid things. I KNOW you all know kids who got caught shoplifting, drinking under age, possession of pot, etc. The records are sealed with the faith they have learned their lesson and will go on to live productive, NON criminal lives. As a senior from upper middle class I have seen this for decades. Who cares anyway what his records might show. This case should only be judged on the facts at hand. Facts that are very difficult to obtain. Why NO police report filed for almost a week? Why was Mike Brown not given CPR, or an ambulance called? Why did his body lay in that street for HOURS? Many questions that should stop us all who do not have all of the facts from convicting the cop….OR trying to bash the reputation of this boy. Shame on all of you who no longer have faith in our system of justice.

        • aboveexcuses

          egads… l can smell your bias from here.

          Many of your “questions” (accusations disguised as) have already been answered.

          The ambulance was on scene and deemed he was deceased, the coroner was called out and scene and body were combed for “evidence”….you know that stuff that proves things? As for the “report”, law protects that from public viewing until (wait for it) the investigation IS CLOSED.

          As soon as I saw the store Clerk manhandled, the “boy’s” reputation spoke volumes. Blame the media for that, no one wanted that released, once Dorian Johnson confirmed they did rob the store, that case was closed.

          Your backpedaling is applauded. So is your inability to find the answers to those questions. Strange, I have never had a record, shoplifted, juvenile or otherwise and neither have any of the kids I raised into the 26, 28 & 30 year olds they are today. Some parents raise their kids. Had the family not tried to slap a Halo on him, people would be less appalled seeing his violent behavior.

    • kimmy

      The family don’t need this for a lawsuit. Didn’t you know, Sharpton is involved. Hell, they’ll win something just to shut them all up.

  • Ben Stevens

    Juvenile records are only accessible by the juvenile. They are sealed in order to protect the juvenile from people like you who would dig into a child’s past to try to paint them as an evil person when in fact they are just children who make mistakes. It is disgusting to think that because someone was walking in the street that they should be given a death sentence. I had a neighbor who had a 12 hour standoff with 30 police officers while he was threatening to blow up the entire neighborhood by letting natural gas fill his house. That man was detained while armed after the gas was shutoff and he was released 3 days later without charges. James holmes was arrested without injury after allegedly killing and injuring numerous people. But the minute a black person walks down the street and is unarmed he is killed and you want to convince people he deserved it because he may or may not have gotten in trouble as a kid? Pathetic. You are absolutely pathetic in your racism.

    • Oink Trotters

      Unless they’re dead.

      • Ben Stevens

        Yeah, point being they are sealed to protect the juvenile. This is because a child’s brain still hasn’t finished developing and they don’t have the same decision making abilities and skills of an adult. Even if they released them what would it prove? That a child made mistakes? It is a pathetic attempt to subvert the issue by suggesting that because someone made mistakes that they deserved a death sentence. Everyone has gotten in trouble when they were younger, some more than others myself included. This doesn’t detract away from the real issue being that this police officer is a murderer but please keep telling yourself that you aren’t racist.

        • Oink Trotters

          You are an idiot. Whatever your race.

          • Ben Stevens

            Oh OK lol

    • Sharigood

      He is dead because he resisted arrest and assaulted a police officer. That is not racism, that is self-defense. Instead of looking for racism, why don’t you condemn Brown for the hoodlum that he was. When you assault a police officer, you cannot guarantee the outcome.

      • Thomas Smith

        If he resisted arrest, what was he being arrested for in the first place?

        • Sharigood

          He was blocking traffic by walking in the middle of the street, and when asked to comply, he pushed the policeman into his car, tried to get the officer’s gun, and nearly tore out the officer’s eye socket. He then attempted to flee and when told to freeze, he began to charge the officer once again. Had he complied with the initial request to get out of the street, he would not have been arrested for assault.

          • Entheogen

            *According to the officer who shot him’s testimony, at least

          • Sharigood

            A number of witnesses corrobarated the officer’s testimony and the injury to the officer also corrobarates the officer’s testimony. Why was the officer beaten?

          • Entheogen

            And a number of witnesses directly contradict the officer’s testimony.

            Why did the officer fail to immediately report the incident? Why was an ambulance not called? Why was Brown’s body left at the scene for hours?

          • Sharigood

            Maybe because he was being beaten. What does the time length of Brown’s body on the ground have to do with the action perpetrated by Brown on the officer?

          • Entheogen

            You do know what “intimidation” is, right?

          • Sharigood

            Who is intimidating whom?

          • still rockin’

            How’s that merry-go-round your on.

          • Entheogen

            About as pleasant as the ass your head is in.

          • still rockin’

            Cute, not to intelligent, but I wouldn’t expect much more after reading your posts.

          • Jac

            Reportedly, Brown’s body was left lying on the ground in the middle of the road in the heat with no covering for about four to six hours just lying in the road. Finally they covered up the body but by then family and Friends had been staring at the deceased for hours.

          • Sharigood

            Even if that is true, it is a seperate issue and does not reflect on the officer’s use of justifable force.

          • Grant Armbruster

            Yes, because had they disturbed the body and not overdone the crime scene investigation we would be hearing about how they botched that instead.

          • kimmy

            How do you know how long he was on the ground? And, IF anyone at any time had doubt about officer Wilson’s reasons, the town of Ferguson has put those to rest. If this is how they behave in greif, then clearly they are a disorderly town. IF anyone is offended by my statement, then they agree that crime speaks for justice. Think about that. It has nothing to do with race, it’s about just being bad and finding yet ANOTHER excuse to NOT contribute to society. This cop was doing his job, and in that town, it could NOT be easy!

          • Entheogen

            “How do you know how long he was on the ground?”

            Any news article detailing the events will tell you. Most describe it with a vague “many hours”. The official time is 4 hours.

            “If this is how they behave in greif, then clearly they are a disorderly town.”

            Right, because when rubber bullets and tear gas are fired at press like Al Jazeera, who are simply filming on a street more than a block away, it lends credence to the idea that the protesters anger and frustration is unwarranted. But I guess you say that all Canadians are “violent people” whenever there’s a riot over a hockey game too, right? Of course not, because they’re not black.

          • kimmy

            Quit throwing that black shit around, it’s pathetic. You got to stop being pissed off about your race so the rest of the world can stop walking on egg shells. Don’t nibody give a rats ass if you’re black or white! Except you

          • Nonna

            Really? You think no one was notified?

          • SaggyTitsRepublicanCow

            You don’t really need an ambulance once someone had died…

          • Entheogen

            Ambulance personnel are always called in to declare a person, even if deceased.

          • Jac

            Wilson did report in after he shot Brown. Wilson’s backup cops arrived 3 minutes later. The new cop noticed bruising on Wilson’s face so he had the paramedics check out Wilson’s face when they had finished with Brown’s remains.

          • Entheogen

            No, Wilson’s backup arrived after he had shot Brown. He requested backup before encountering Brown, as is standard procedure.

            As for the claim that Wilson’s face had bruises, that might be little more than hearsay if the department would release its official report, which they have so far refused to do.

          • aboveexcuses

            That was that “scuffle” most witnesses said.

            WHO “SCUFFLES” with a LONE officer? Are you kidding me?

          • Sharigood

            A dead man!

          • Ben Stevens

            Where did you get that fabrication lol

          • Sharigood

            The officer’s eye socket was nearly torn out. Now go get a life! For some reason you don’t want to face the facts.

        • Christopher

          I guess you didn’t see the video of the strong arm robbery he committed.

          • Jersey JiN

            Storeowner said that wasn’t him in the video though…

          • Christopher

            FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) – The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.

            That word comes from the attorney for Dorian Johnson, speaking to MSNBC. Police in Ferguson had earlier announced that Brown was suspected of taking cigars from the convenience store in what was described as a “strong-arm robbery.”

            Do you really think that the store owner is going to say anything when the people in the community are rioting? Don’t you think that he would fear for his life if he was to accuse Brown of being the one in the video. Give me a damn break. Brown’s friend said he and Brown did commit the robbery. I think you need to get your facts straight and use some common sense. If I was the store owner, I would keep my mouth shut as well. If he doesn’t they will steal everything he owns or at the very worse kill him just for telling the truth.

          • Nonna

            The friend put the cigars Brown handed him back on the counter. It could be that he did not want to take part in the robbery.

          • Michael F

            Ah, but he sure took part in lying his ass off to the media to race bait and garner sympathy

          • SaggyTitsRepublicanCow

            Okay, but it would still be an attempted robbery, fuck you are dumb.

          • Jac

            That is why Johnson was not held or arrested since he put the stolen merchandise Michael Brown handed him back and then Johnson left the store before Michael did. Johnson told his lawyer and the police about the altercation in the convenience store the same day Michael died.

          • SaggyTitsRepublicanCow

            Shit son, Christopher just schooled you.

          • Jac

            Then that will come out in court that it wasn’t Brown robbing the store according to the store owner. It was definitely Brown’s friend Johnson next to the big guy robbing the store. The Brown’s family lawyer told CNN that Michael Brown’s parents identified Michael as being the strong arm robber in the store video. I figured if his mother recognized him as the strong arm robber, that is good enough for me.

          • Grant Armbruster

            Store owner doesn’t want to die. In case you haven’t noticed the locals have a attendance to burn down buildings and tag them with “snitches get stitches”.

          • Jersey JiN

            Plus, Officer Wilson said he had zero intent to tie Brown to the robbery that happened earlier. That wasn’t why he stopped him. Your facts are all the way off, sir.

          • Christopher

            It doesn’t matter what the officer intended to stop him for. The fact is that the officer can stop him for whatever he wants to. That doesn’t give Brown the right to assault the officer even if he didn’t do anything. It is the officers job to investigate anything he finds suspicious. He only has to articulate reasonable suspicion for stopping him. He has plenty of reasonable suspicion. Brown created the situation that got him shot, not the officer.

          • Jimmy Johnson

            Ok, let’s judge each episode separately. HE TRIED TO TAKE THE COP’S GUN !!!! DO YOU THINK WILSON BEAT HIS OWN ASS ?

          • Jac

            Reportedly, Michael hit the cop in the face several times to distract him while Michael tried for the officers gun. The officer retained the gun but the gun went off in the police car.

          • Nonna

            Really? The first story I heard is that he saw him with the cigars in the vehicle he was in and he fit the description.

          • Jac

            No Wilson first saw the two teenagers walking down the center of the street disrupting traffic. As he was pulling up to them Wilson heard the notice of the robbery and when he reached the two boys, the big one had a bunch of the same type cigars in his hand. That was the first time Wilson was aware that he may be pulling next to the strong arm robber.

          • Ruki

            Again, it’s theft not strong Arm
            Robbery.

            And which version of the story are you listening to? Cause even the captain said that the officer did NOT know about the “robbery”, so it couldn’t have come over the radio.

        • Auggie

          Robbery !!! The officer wasn’t aware of it at first but it was aired over his radio. That is when the officer attempted to do his JOB and arrest him and the fight was on. Regardless, he assaulted a police officer and tried to take his gun. When has that ever been ok? I guess it would have been better in your eyes if he let Brown kill him. An unarmed suspect can be very dangerous. A deputy in Lakewood CA was attacked by an unarmed suspect last week and is currently paralyzed. An officer in NY was attacked by an unarmed suspect who took his gun during the struggle and killed the officer.

          • JoseAmerica

            The store-owner didn’t report a robbery, which would be a fairly good indication that a robbery didn’t occur as the edited surveillance video suggested at first.

          • DT

            Someone called 911 and reported the robbery. An officer responded. An agent of the store had to provide details of the robbery otherwise a report would have never been written. A third party could not have given those details as the store was the victim of the robbery, not a customer. So even though the store owner didn’t call, and perhaps didn’t give the information to the responding officer, an agent of that store did. Police do not write “just because” reports. If no crime was committed, or there was no compliant victim, no report would have been written.

          • Ruki

            But they can also just not write a report right? There’s nothing on the incident report of the the death except names basically. Can you explain that one?

          • Auggie

            It was reported as DT explained. You apparently choose to ignore the facts rather than accept that your opinion is dead wrong. I think the video clearly shows that Michael Brown wasn’t in the store just making a friendly purchase. Like I said before it’s never ok to try to take an officer’s gun. Your way of thinking is truly what’s wrong with this country. Amazing.

          • Christopher

            Would you report a robbery if it was going to get you killed when the people started rioting? Wake up and stop ignoring the facts so that it fits your case.

          • Jimmy Johnson

            The robbery was reported. Where have you been ?

          • Jimmy Johnson

            You saw the video, don’t be ignorant.

          • Nonna

            Please give us the web address of the report you are referring to that he did not know about the robbery

          • SaggyTitsRepublicanCow

            Seems legit, but you are a Mexican, so nobody really cares what you think.

        • aboveexcuses

          Ummm ……..”I’ll take MB would be under arrest for WHAT felony” for $315,000 Thomas.

          WHAT IS ASSAULTING A POLICE OFFICER INSIDE HIS CAR ?

          YOU ARE CORRECT, THAT WAS THE DAILY DOUBLE YOUR TOTAL WILL BE INCREASED TO $630,000 IN ABOUT 4 DAYS

        • Nonna

          Robbery and a physical attack on a store owner

        • Michael F

          Not resisting arrest, but assault for, what? The robbery that the kid had just committed, what fool, if he had just done so, is in the middle of the street, and when ordered to just simply get out of the street, and not for what he had done at the store, doesn’t then just get out of the way?

      • Ben Stevens

        You are a joke. You go look at the actual evidence. Yes because stealing should be punishable by death if you are black. I love how the mass amounts of whites keep saying it’s not about race. Yes I’m white.

        • Sharigood

          If you are able to reason, then you will understand that assaulting an officer can result in death. The police officer didn’t even know that Brown stole, he shot him because he feared for his life after being assaulted. Get it!

    • Christopher

      Why wasn’t this case publicized when it involved a black cop killing a white kid? No one said it was racial. What the hell is the difference?
      http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/unarmed-white-man-killed-by-black-cop-heres-how-the-media-reacted

      • Entheogen

        Because a white kid being killed by a black cop is a RARE event, whereas the opposite is not.

        • Christopher

          The fact that it is rare does not make it any less racist than the Brown case. I am not saying that this case with the white kid was racial but it is no less subject to scrutiny than the Brown case. I don’t see people rioting in his neighborhood. And on that note, a black kid was shot so lets go break into all the business in our community and steal everything. That makes a hell of a lot of sense. I haven’t quite figured out why they thought that was going to help anything. Just another justification for people to break the law. Ridiculous!

          • Entheogen

            Oh poor white you. You are so oppressed in society that I’ll guarantee you are stopped frequently by cops merely for walking down the street, followed around stores solely because of the color of your skin, and have such far reaching institutionalized racism that every white model on every magazine is airbrushed to be “darker”, right?

            The riot did not happen just because Brown was black. It happened because he was an UNARMED black man who was shot by a police force that was overwhelmingly white, in a city with a deep seated and culturally prominent history of racism against people of color. Anger builds until it reaches a boiling point, and when that happens, people react violently and cause wanton destruction, regardless of their skin color. But of course, as mentioned before, you people will never accuse white Canadians of being “violent people” every time there’s a riot over a hockey game.

          • Ben Stevens

            You don’t listen to the people you listen to the news so your opinion is handed to you. There is no thought process in your mind when you look at these issues

        • kimmy

          % of black population in America, about 13%. % of white population, about 77%. Has less to do with race than odds. It’s a fact that all black neighborhoods have higher crime rates. It’s not because others are going into the neighborhood to somehow inflate the crime rate either. Nope, people do it to their own neighborhoods, it’s a sorry fact. Sorry asses didn’t want to become police officers in their own neighborhood, but they show no respect for the white guy who pissed his family off every day he went to work in that shit hole because he thought he might be able to make a difference. These people suck and they need to quit breading. I’m sick of them blaming the white man, it’s typical. They have a million problems but offer no solutions. How about quit hating so the rest of us can!

          • Entheogen

            You are 2.8 times more likely to be killed by a white assailant if you are black, than you are to be killed by a black assailant if you are white.

            Cry about that number for a while and keep preaching from a position of never having encounter shit or fuck all in terms of actual discrimination.

          • kimmy

            Yeah, I have to pay for college. Try that on for discrimination

      • Ruki

        There was a protest about it. Try again.

    • Tired of stupid people

      Ben if Michael did as stated (attempted or commited murder) then hes not one to be protected. He was evil if this comes to be true so again what are you seeing when this comes out and he did what was stated? Do you see a pure innocent child or a serial killer in the making? Ben people like you make me sick. Its ok to give the personal info and the home address of the officer but not this criminal. Wow are you backwards in mind and heart. Oh wait you have no heart.

      • Entheogen

        Because fuck the Constitution when we’ve got the idea of reverse racism to propogate, right?

      • Ruki

        Our serial killers are treated better than black males. How many have been apprehended ALIVE? And it’s always a “he was a good kid, but troubled” type of the thing for the serial killers yet people are quick to slap on “thug” to a POC.

    • Christopher

      You are the pathetic one for believing that this guy was just shot for walking down the street. I guess it is ok to ignore all the facts about what had happened before the shooting if it supports your racism case. Racism continues because it is constantly used as an excuse for someones bad behavior. This cop had the right to detain the kid if he suspected him of anything. If after further investigation it was found that he was not involved then he would have been released. He put himself in a position to be shot by his actions. There are very few people in this world that want to kill people. Why the hell would this cop just decide he wants to shoot this kid because he is black. That is just a stupid and ridiculous accusation.

      • Ruki

        No, racism is alive because of people like you who are choosing to be willfully ignorant. People can show you all the facts of how POC are treated differently with likelihood of everything from school suspensions to longer or worse charges for the SAME thing as a white person. And whenever it gets pointed out people just stick their heads in the same because they refuse to see what’s in front of their face.

      • Ben Stevens

        Yeah because every day blacks aren’t killed by cops

    • BigPat Yum Yum

      1st. Only if they sealed them they do NOT seal themselves. 2nd. he beat the eye out of the cop (figure of speech) and I am pretty sure the evidence WOULD have shown this BUT I have a feeling it is going to be sealed up tighter than the Sandy Hook BS in the end.

    • Jimmy Johnson

      James Holmes gave up with no incident. Michael Brown did not.

      • Ben Stevens

        Hm funny I wonder why he had his hands up as confirmed by the autopsy

    • xstratusx

      “Children who make mistakes” – who continue making mistakes as an adult which eventually get them killed.

      • Ben Stevens

        Yeah he hurt nobody. He may have gotten in trouble in the past so he should die. Hey guess what you have been in trouble before do you deserve to die?

    • Nonna

      How many mistakes and how many chances? I don’t need to know, but I believe the grand jury does.

    • SaggyTitsRepublicanCow

      Wat?

  • Dan

    “Apparently, the records of dead blacks cannot be released but those of
    dead whites may be—at least according to the St. Louis County.”

    You describe, in a fair amount of detail, how the records of the dead white kid got released only after long and intensive legal battles. Brown, by contrast, died less than a month ago, and apparently the only people demanding the records are idiotic bloggers whose only connection to the case is their seemingly deep-seated belief that Brown had it coming. But yeah, sure, it’s because of reverse racism.

    • Tired of stupid people

      Dan what are you saying? Its okay that the public not know the background of Michael? What happen to fair play? The officer’s background went up for all to see and his home also given yet you advocate hiding a criminal’s background but not a upstanding member of society? Wow either your helping the black mentality of Whitie took another of us down or a delusional person that wants the good to go down while the bad staying on pedestals.

      • Dan

        Actually, the only thing I said is that it’s idiotic to cry “reverse racism” because following a protracted legal battle a dead white kid’s records were released as part of an actual trial, but when a dead black kid got shot his records were not immediately released to whatever random uninvolved person asked for them. The race of the kids is the least significant difference between the two instances the author has described.

        But since you asked, yes, it is okay that the general public not know the juvenile records of a kid who died in a police shooting, regardless of the kid’s race. As far as I’m concerned, that information needs only be made available so far as it is needed to resolve the case. Same for the background and residence of the officer.

        So very many conclusions you’ve jumped to… you must be exhausted all the time, huh?

        • Philnumber3

          S/he asked questions and made a general statement about the two possible choices left after viewing your obvious bias. S/he didn’t jump to conclusions, that would be you.

          • Dan

            Uhh huh… I’d ask what conclusions I’ve jumped to, or what exactly demonstrated my bias (maybe you’re confused by the part where I comment on the clear bias of the article’s author?). But I’m going to go with the third question that occurs to me:

            Do you honestly think that “I want black people to hate/fear ‘whitey'” and “I want to tear down good people and raise up evil” are the only two possible explanations for why I’d criticize the article?

            On second thought, don’t answer. Wouldn’t want you to put “Tired” into a coma.

          • Philnumber3

            You are the problem. Explaining things to those who refuse to understand is a waste of time. You and your ilk make me “tired”. Bye

          • Dan

            So, in other words, you can’t find any way of explaining yourself without coming off as even more of an idiot. Fair enough.

          • Philnumber3

            Nope. You simply lack the intelligence with which to carry on a conversation. Please feel superior, that’s all you have is your ego

          • Dan

            Quack

        • BigPat Yum Yum

          If they were NOT sealed before this event THEY SHOULD BE SHOWN.It is not my fault that so are not smart enough to seal their juvi. records but they sure know how to work the system in every other way do they not?

          • Dan

            Juvenile records are automatically sealed by law (the text of the lawsuit posted above even references the law, albeit as a quote of the initial denial of their request for Brown’s records). Nobody has to be “smart enough” to have their juvenile records sealed, they just are.

          • Nikki

            It might depend on the state. Washington state doesn’t automatically seal juvenile records: http://www.washingtonlawhelp.org/resource/sealing-juvenile-court-records-in-washington

        • Christopher

          I don’t get this “reverse racism”. There is no such thing. Racism is racism. It is the same racism whether is white on black or black on white. Black people or not excluded from being racist against white people and they do not own the exclusive rights to being the only victims of racism.

          • Dan

            I agree, and I actually debated a bit over whether to include the word “reverse”. Racism is indeed racism regardless of who it’s aimed at. Thing is, that also makes the term slightly ambiguous in cases, and “reverse racism” just seemed like the most succinct way to eliminate any ambiguity in this case.

          • Ruki

            Negative. It’s institutional racism. Whites can be racist because they’re the ones with all the power. POC can be prejudiced.

          • kimmy

            You’re an idiot. The fucking president is black you fool!

      • Karen

        I agree with you. It is time to stop the crazy people from coming out of the woodwork. If more people knew that their records would be released maybe they would think twice before they went out and stomped on someone or burned their property. I am tired of the race crap too. Only the racist yell the loudest.

      • aboveexcuses

        Then of course a flat denial certainly seems indicative that a record exists. I wonder if those Charges in NOV 2013 were his afterall. What about a probation officer?

        • Jac

          There were three sets of 2013 charges for a Michael Brown living in St. Louis who was a member of the Victory Lords. That Michael Brown was age 19 and was not the same Michael Brown age 18 shot by Wilson in Ferguson. A number of people are confusing the two Michael Browns.

      • macgeneral

        Bear in mind that a police officer is a public servant, he’s paid by you and I and therefore his background relative to his job and performance theretofore is absolutely going to be public, as it should be. On the other hand the victim here was a private citizen. So the rights of the two are different relative to their roles. That is not “unfair” it just is what it is. No one is advocating hiding anything.

        As for the robbery if that is accurate – and in this country accuracy is determined by a jury reviewing evidence, it has bearing on the possible nature or state of the victim. But it will not likely have much bearing on the shooting itself.

        If the officer was making a stop relative to the robbery (at any point during the incident) then the fact will have to support that … the timing of the dispatch call (if there was one), the behavior of the officer, any calls for backup etc. He also would have to prove that once he heard the dispatch call he followed SOP. These things will absolutely have to be vetted.

    • Wildshot

      You know, I am certainly not an authority about this thing of releasing Juvenile records but common sense tells me that a department or file clerk or whoever has custody of those records are not going to release them just because they are asked for. I could see a lawsuit happen because of that. Then even if the “custodian” is found not at fault they are still penalized by the cost of the lawsuit. My suspicion is that they have no feelings against releasing them but are going to wait to be told to do so.

    • msudude404

      Welcome to Missouri.

  • Carrie

    So because he was a criminal, he deserved to be shot? It doesn’t matter. I think you and this site and this whole country need to let the court system do its job. If brown provoked the officer, let the courts decide. If the officer was incorrect and killed him, let the courts decide. All this site seemed to do was fan the flames even more. Our laws work, let it do its job.

    • Ugh

      That is potentially the smartest thing I’ve heard someone say this entire ordeal. Thank you!

    • Jimmy Johnson

      If Michael Brown was white, would you have typed that ? Just curious. Times like these get people in “groups”.

      • PJM

        I would be.

        • SaggyTitsRepublicanCow

          M’lady, I very much doubt you would, for telling such deceitful lies I have down voted your comment. Have a great day!

      • Carrie

        Yes, I would. I read a recent article where a black police officer shot an unarmed white youth. I even shared it on my facebook page, no one seemed to care which irritated me. I hope the system works in that case too. If the officer is wrong, drag his butt in jail but if the youth is wrong, oh well. Let the courts decide.

        • Jimmy Johnson

          Well I want to personally apologize to you. I stereotyped your response, and for that I apologize. But, I do think that something is not right with this case. How did the officer get a swollen face ? Also, don’t you think that the cigar robbery shows his aggressive state of mind that night ?

    • Tom Puckett

      Carrie….sounds like a great idea. Let the justice system do it’s thing before rioting and burning the neighborhood down. Unfortunately everyone is cowing down to these folks protest without knowing the facts. I don’t know the facts. May have been an unlawful shoot. But I’m willing to let the justice system run it’s course. And tell me this? What if they run this whole thing through the local police, the state police and the Department of Justice and it’s proven a lawful shooting. Do you think these folks are gonna take that news peacefully? Just remember that when the facts don’t go your way it doesn’t mean the justice system is corrupt. Just usually means you were blinded by hate.

      • Theresa Lakerstyle Montgomery

        Being blinded by hate IS corrupt.

        • magormissabib

          Not so much hate as thinking that because they are black they should have special allowances.

          • 00lee_mm

            Oh the joys of being White and privileged! What special allowance?? Protesting is as American as apple pie. Its only when people who are not White do it, its called rioting! No matter how much you want to ignore the fact that one set of folks raped (figuratively and literally) and pillaged another set of people for hundreds of years, set them free only to implement unequal laws for about another 100 years and then complain when the same people that have been (and continue to be) oppressed speak out against them. No one with sense would paint Michael Brown as an angel (after all no one is). However, being a brat and not listening to when an officer tells you to move should not result in you getting shot that many times if at all.

          • Gary Hubbard

            00lee_mm- Great response! A race of people was enslaved (then) and now free but they’re somehow entitled to riot and steal and destroy property? Nice justification! And by the way, people are trying to portray him as an angel. I believe the term that was used was “gentle giant.”

          • Miguel

            funny…MANY of these folks ancestors werent slaves….however they have similar color skin so that counts I guess

          • Carl McGee

            Remember when Joe Paterno got fired from Penn State and those nice college students stood and held up signs and joined together in peaceful protest?…
            Yea me either…

          • Michael Williamson

            When people protest, they usually hold up signs. Black people’s “protests” include looting, and destruction of property.

          • Carl McGee

            It has been proven that the “powers that be” infiltrate peaceful demonstrations and start problems to make it SEEM as though the peaceful demonstrators are not-so peaceful to people like YOU who believe everything they hear…
            see FBI COINTEL program…

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            When black people shoot people it’s usually another gang member or thug….when white people shoot people they spray up schools and movies theaters. You know, places where kids tend to be at…….we can go back and forth all day……you may not like the result…..white people have done some sick shit…..most people on to catch a predator where white as well…….so yea a small group of black people loot which is wrong, but that is nothing compared to the shit y’all are known for…….

          • Ken

            Beltway snipers, navy yard shooter, Atlanta child murders, Stocking Strangler…I admit that black murderers generally prefer to murder defenseless victims when the number of assailants is larger than the number of victims though.

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            What are you talking about? How is that the same as killing defenseless children? And I know you’re not bring serial killers into this, you guys have that mastered. If that’s the road you want to go down, how about the Jews and Indians here. Are u kidding me. Nothing compares to the killing that whites do and have done….hell KKK makes Islam extreme, seem like an after school program….

          • kimmy

            Now when is the last time you’ve seen evidence that the KKK still exist? And, if you are comparing slavery to the holocaust, you’re a fool. One more thing, who do you refer to when saying ‘you guys’?

          • Maxima

            And that somehow absolves the KKK of its history?

          • kimmy

            You can’t change history, so why are you using it as an excuse to hate white people? Find another reason, please. I don’t know any members of the KKK, so your hate for me is clearly about my skin color. Who’s racist?

          • Maxima

            The town of Jefferson, MO where Ferguson cop Darren Wilson worked before Ferguson. The Jefferson police force was disbanded because of Klan activity. And I asked if the KKK should be absolved of its history?
            How is that displaying hate for white people?
            Don’t answer that, you are the one who is just full of hate because it is all your grandparents and parents had to teach you.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Generally when I open my mouth I make sure I’m talking fact before I say something, just the fact that you are saying that Darren Wilson worked for Jefferson, Missouri is a clear indication of how facts get twisted in cases like this, clearly showing just how twisted the facts are for the thought that Michael Brown was innocent, even though all the facts clearly show that Officer Darren Wilson was innocent. Darren Wilson never worked for Jefferson, Missouri, yet he did work for Jennings, Missouri. Another thing to note is that just because a department is crooked doesn’t mean you as a person are, so to say that the cops in Jennings, Missouri were racist is one thing, but to try to say that Officer Wilson was racist is based once again off the fact that other Officer’s that worked for that department, once again stereotyping Officer Wilson because of what other Officer’s did. Once again showing that the true racist’s are the people claiming Michael Brown is innocent. Stereotyping which is what you are doing is the same damn thing as racism, pull your heads out of your ass and figure that out, once you do life may get better for you because you truly support what you say you are against. I’m against racism but I stereotype, what is racism? Hating people based on the color of their skin, what is stereotyping? Hating people based on what group they are in, practically the same damn thing, oh wow we are geniuses here. This is why I don’t care to argue with these people much anymore because they are going to insist that Michael Brown is innocent regardless of what the truth is, they are going to keep trying to pull bogus shit to make their facts seem real, however even when he worked for Jennings, Missouri, Officer Wilson never had a complaint, why? He must have been racist and no-one cared to report him, just other Officer’s. This just shows that he didn’t act like the other Officer’s and is not racist. Keep the faulty facts coming, I just can’t wait until GotNews gets Michael Brown’s juvenile record and can prove that Michael Brown was convicted of 2nd Degree Murder showing the real true colors of this hardcore thug, showing that those that back him up are criminals that deserve to be locked up on charges of Defamation of Character, and multiple other charges as well including Gang ties, Falsifying information, etc…

          • Maxima

            So much of your Faux News response is to be dismissed.
            Do you think he would be out on the street before the age of 21 if he was convicted of 2nd degree murder before the age where he could be tried as an adult?
            Before you yell racism, look at the four fingers pointing back at you rather than the BS you are pointing at others.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Oh whah, cry me a river, coming from someone crying racism yet stereotyping an Officer because of what another Officer has done. Racism = Stereotyping therefore you are a hypocrite either way, therefore your words have no meaning period. Thank you & have a nice day.

          • Nelson Nolan

            All I got to say is suck it up fag, I’m sorry but my news don’t come from Fox and even if it did it really wouldn’t matter because fact are facts. You got a bunch of crackheads with nothing more than their mouths to say what happened (While you clearly see the Black Panthers standing right next to them coaching them what to say, oh shit really if their stuff was real, why do they need the Black Panthers there with them? Oh to make sure their stories match and sound real) which shows nothing. Yet you have massive amounts of witnesses stating the Officers side of the story, video evidence of the Officer’s story, and facts that clearly show the real story. Get lost loser i’m not going to argue with you maybe someday you’ll educate yourself but until then keep your mouth shut cause you sound pretty stupid.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Another thing to note, you can’t even spell Fox news so get real.

          • kimmy

            He didn’t work in Jefferson MO, and just because there is an article that speaks to racial tension does not mean the KKK were involved. Did it ever occur to you that the tension came from the citizens of Jennings? What is ever so sad is that because of this, many officers lost their jobs, yet none were replaced by the black citizens who claimed racism. Not one person in that community offered any solution other than to remove the current police force, no one offered to stand in that position. The only truth any of us can take from that event is 1, the community did not want law enforcement, period, and 2, there was so little revenue coming in that they mistakenly took money for something they did not do to compensate the loss.

          • Maxima

            So, a corrupt police force should be supported and maintained with tax dollars, no matter what.
            Wow, they wouldn’t even admit you to the NRA.

          • kimmy

            Haha, wrong. I’m white, of course I got a free pass to the NRA, they are a bunch of conservatives you know.

          • kimmy

            My parents and grandparents taught me NOT to feel sorry for myself! They taught me that excuses were for failures. They taught me morals and right from wrong. They ASKED me where I was going, and who I was going with. They put food on the table, paid for by them. They taught me that NOTHING is free, and taking something without earning it is stealing. They taught me that not everyone is equal, some try harder than others, and that life is never fair, but I’m not special and I’m the only one in control of my future. They taught me that for every action there is a reaction. They taught me that blaming others is a sign of weakness, you and only you are responsible for your actions. So when you speak of my parents and grandparents, let me tell you that in my entire life, not one red dime ever got handed to them, nor would they have ever accepted it. They passed those values onto their children, and we can all continue to hold our heads high, taking care of our own families and never taking what we did not earn. You and yours cannot fathom what my grandmother went through, yet she never once complained, and never once gave up. In the end, she ded surrounded by her hard working, loving Christian family who never once asked, ‘was there a will’. This Maxima, is what makes us different, not color

          • Maxima

            Your grandparents taught you envy, anger and bitterness. So, you all your bloviating just proves my point. Whatever your grandparents went through, was probably caused by her adequacy to take advantage of opportunities due to low self-esteem and a lack of intelligence.
            And if you are so Christian, why are you responding on a Sunday? Because white supremacy is what you worship.

          • kimmy

            Really, you really are an angry negro. You, nor anyone you know could walk a mile in my grandma’s shoes. You will never breed anyone even close to her adequacy. I don’t think you know what suffering is, and just sharing a skin color with someone does not somehow relate you to them. No Minima, you do not count, sorry.
            Do black people only worship on Sunday? IDK, seems to me they would have more options to accommodate work schedules. Oops, there I go, assuming

          • Maxima

            You are one desperate and hateful white person. I could walk a mile or further in your grandmother’s shoes, after all, look at what SHE BRED, BRED. No I wouldn’t breed anyone like your grandmother; I am human and I reproduce. Only animals breed.
            Hey, you said it, not me.
            As for how black people worship: I would never ask you about all white people. Only an ignorant white person like you would ask one person about his or her entire race.

          • kimmy

            Minima, find another cause. Seriously, this race crap is a waste. You think because people suffered 150 years ago that somehow excuses bad behaviour today? Nobody denies that there are some people who can’t get past color, but as we move on, it seems to be the opposite of what you believe. These social oulets and the likes of Al Sharpton, oh and let’s not forget the family on Pennsylvania Ave, ask that we all believe this, clearly because suppression (not just black) benefits them. These groups like to tell you that black people are no further than they were 100 years ago, and that’s simply not true. People will always hate, black people, Jewish people, Catholics, and more. We will never change that, but we can ignore it.
            My great great grandfather married (I think) one of his fathers slaves. They had children, and surprisingly his eldest son owned a plantation and had over 200 slaves. This is not my grandmother’s side, she was an orphan Indian in 1903 (5 yrs old). Sir, I could not tell you what my real race is, I’m a mutt. My mother comes from German descend, so geneology is not something I care to dig into. What happened to slaves is more than horrific, and enough to make anyone sad, but I can’t change it, I can’t take it back. To be real honest, I think most people would like to forget it all together. I know that seems like cheating history, and ignoring what did happen to real, normal, human beings, but the truth is people just don’t want to be reminded that people actually thought it okay to do that to other people.

            This is why people get defensive. They are ashamed, and it is not healthy to continue to remind people of their shame.

          • kimmy

            Don’t let them do this anymore! Let them use rich people as their pawn, enough of lower class, and absolutely people of race! Now they’re moving to hispanics! Sad

          • faith

            They rally in Memphis frequently dumbass!

          • kimmy

            I’m sure I’m the dumbass. Perhaps it’s just law abiding taxpayers trying to get control of their city. They rally, you riot, point made

          • None of your Business

            The KKK was started by Democrats. They even honored Senator Robert KKK Byrd over and over by naming Federal buildings after him. The Democrats fought tooth and nail to block Civil Rights legislation, but the Republicans were able to get it passed over the objections of the Democrats. After that, the Democrats decided if they couldn’t beat them, they decided they would use them, and have been using Blacks ever since. They implemented programs to destroy black families, destroy their schools and keep them down and dependent. That is why every black neighborhood controlled by dems are poor, crime-infested, gang invested areas with failing schools and high unemployment. And every election cycle the dems promise blacks the moon, and then never deliver.

          • snl

            when you judge a whole race of people, for the actions of a few, you are a racist. that’s just what you are doing.

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            Please show me where I passed a judgement….I made a counterpoint. Which was pointing out how black people are more harshly judged when we bad things. You sound like you just wanted something to say. Spin that nonsense somewhere else……did you even read what I said?

          • Sara

            White people looting after the Boston bombing — Not one peaceful protest followed this incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBbGeFHfH8U

            Black and white people “looting” after Hurricane Katrina. But oh wait, according to the Huffington Post, on the black people were looting, during the SAME disaster.
            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/van-jones/black-people-loot-food-wh_b_6614.html

          • kimmy

            Sara, what’s your point? White trash and black trash are equal. This is about lies, a town of people claiming a man was shot while trying to surrender, then trashing the place to keep that lie going, in the meantime, a 28 year old man’s future is at stake. These lies affect somebody’s life! Fuck Ferguson. I hope and pray Karma comes along

          • Nelson Nolan

            There are bad people in every race, murderer’s, liars, thieves, rapists, druggies, frauder’s, child molester’s, etc… this doesn’t have anything to do with Ferguson, Missouri. Because I support the constitution and my rights, In my opinion, Ferguson, Missouri should just be bombed off the map and forgotten about. We all know the ridiculous scum that lives there and there is no need for scum like this to continue to exist. Anyone that has so much hate for Law Enforcement such as criminals and gangsters which is what Ferguson is, as shown by the fact that all facts show clearly that Officer Wilson is innocent yet these ignoramuses continue trying to say that Officer Wilson committed murder, is a racist, etc… Please go smoke some more crack and enjoy yourself, waste your time on your crack rocks not on fighting for something that doesn’t exist for real. Anyone whether black, white, green, or purple, has a right to defend themselves against a threat that poses the fear of death in their life. Officer Wilson didn’t kill Michael Brown because he wanted to, he did it because he had to in order to save his own life. Only a moron which there are a lot of in the USA would support or even entertain the fact that Michael Brown is innocent. I’m sure if I smoked crack and did PCP I’d be right there with you all saying Michael Brown is innocent, unfortunately I don’t do either and I can see reality therefore I can see the facts and can see that Officer Wilson is innocent, case closed so whine, cry, destroy your town please do America a big favor and burn your whole town down. But you aren’t going to see me cry or whine when you do it because people like you are the scum under my feet and that’s all there is too it.
            http://www.facebook.com/officerdarrenwilsonferguson

          • Bunny

            Hate to break it to you, but the Boston Bombing was a Hoax as was The Sandy Hook School shooting in Connecticut. (2 years in the making)

          • Miguel

            but running at a cop in a violent manner does…. how did the cops eye socket get broke again…oh thats right he was hit. you guys and your white privelege bs

          • Carl McGee

            Eye socket broke?…
            That’s a new one…
            Where have you found this bit of info please?…

          • Carl McGee
          • Tammy

            Actually, the news article I had read did say “eye socket broke” to, lol. I was like wth??

          • Alesy Ortiz

            that was a lie. people saw him days later mowing his lawn. his face was fine

          • Nelson Nolan

            Where’s the video on this lmao, where’s the proof on this? Considering the fact the media that supports you moron’s has said Officer Wilson hasn’t been seen since the day this happened. Please put the crack pipe down and wake up to reality, I will pray for you all because unfortunately this case has only shown me that there’s a lot more moron’s in the USA than I had ever thought, however now that I can see it, I’m just amazed because you all are just as crooked as Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson, you all deserve jail time too if you ask my opinion for the Defamation of character and other things you have done.
            http://www.facebook.com/officerdarrenwilsonferguson

          • Maxima

            The cop’s eye socket was never broken. It was a planted story, Pedro, I mean Miguel, I mean, you will never get your “white” card.

          • Jennifer Lee

            pro·test
            noun
            ˈprōˌtest/
            1.
            a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something.
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            2.
            LAW
            a written declaration, typically by a notary public, that a bill has been presented and payment or acceptance refused.
            verb
            prəˈtest,prōˈtest/
            1.
            express an objection to what someone has said or done.
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            2.
            declare (something) firmly and emphatically in the face of stated or implied doubt or in response to an accusation.
            ““I’m not being coy!” Lucy protested”
            synonyms:insist on, maintain, assert, affirm, announce, proclaim, declare,profess, contend, argue, claim, vow, swear (to), stress;
            formalaver
            “he protested his innocence”

            ri·ot
            ˈrīət/
            noun
            1.
            a violent disturbance of the peace by a crowd.
            “riots broke out in the capital”
            synonyms:uproar, commotion, upheaval, disturbance, furor, tumult, melee, scuffle,fracas, fray, brawl, free-for-all; More

            2.
            an impressively large or varied display of something.
            “the garden was a riot of color”
            synonyms:mass, sea, splash, show, exhibition
            “the garden was a riot of color”

            verb
            1.
            take part in a violent public disturbance.
            “students rioted in Paris”
            synonyms:rampage, go on the rampage, run riot, fight in the streets, run wild, run amok, go berserk;
            informalraise hell
            “the miners rioted”

          • Tammy

            Thank you for the lesson! LOL!

          • IlluminationTheory

            My ancestors are Irish, as yours are African. My people were actually enslaved in the United States before yours. The majority of the slaves to the “New World” were white. They were sold by the British to the “New World” as slaves. The Irish were burned alive in the United States, hung, whipped, beaten, etc, for “failing” in the perceived eyes of slave owners. In a single decade the Irish population fell from 1,500,000 to 600,000. If you believe that slavery was an African only experience then you are completely wrong and void of any historical knowledge. The difference is my people persevered, they rallied, they educated themselves, they arose from the ashes of slavery after having their entire population nearly exterminated, they didn’t use slavery as a crutch like African Americans do and they most certainly don’t blame it for any modern day problems. Until African Americans realize that the other races are not their problems, particularly whitey, that they are their own worst enemy, they will never persevere, the vast majority will be confined to the ghettos and slums.

            “White Privilege” you say? Take my advice, take it from a person whose ancestors defeated their slavery ridden past and became a working class society of intellectuals. My “White Privilege” comes from the fact that my people were able to defeat the odds and overcome their shortcomings and yours have not been.

          • magormissabib

            I guess this dope never noticed that there are many black men who over come those imagined obstacles and become successful in america ie the Black man in the white house. etc.

          • Guest

            I don’t think he was getting at that to be
            honest, I think he’s getting at the fact that a majority of black people
            continue to say that racist losers are the reason they do what they do. I’ve
            stated my opinion before and I feel that Racism should be considered a crime,
            there should be a criminal punishment for it that is severe, there is a
            difference between freedom of speech and treating someone like trash because of
            the color of their skin, I do believe in the freedom of speech but I don’t
            agree with the use of racial attacks etc.

            If
            American’s were to stand up and make it a law, racists would be sitting in jail
            where they belong, just like any other law it takes standing up to make it
            happen. On another note if you are looking at Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson as
            being your idols of black men that overcame obstacles and became successful
            then you are looking in the wrong direction because neither of them are
            successful, they are just as guilty as any of these other criminals with their
            racial instigations, etc… Now if you look at someone that has been successful
            in any race, they aren’t the one’s standing here fighting and arguing over
            stupid BS.

            Also just another word of advice, the way
            you can tell a successful Black Man vs. a Criminal Minded Black Man? First off
            law abiding, successful Black Men do not use words like Nigga to talk to other
            Black Men, this word is not a part of their vocabulary, I know many respectful
            African Americans and they never use this word when they talk, however the ones
            that get in trouble with the law etc… Tend to use that word and other words
            showing that they are crooked. Just a thing to think about because it’s the
            truth, I have never met a person that uses the word Nigga that doesn’t violate
            the law in one way or another, and believe me I have friends that are Black and
            they use these words and I won’t get into their criminal history either and
            won’t discuss how many times they have been to jail.

            A person regardless of race has 2 options,
            Option 1.) Make something of yourself, be productive and make a name for your
            family regardless of what others think. Option 2.) Do what your friends want
            you to do, act like your friends act, be like your friends because it’s what
            they want you to do and end up nowhere. In other words Option 1.) Be a Leader
            or Option 2.) Be a Follower. Every person has this choice and race is not a
            matter in this, something to think about. However in this Officer Wilson and
            Michael Brown BS Officer Wilson is the innocent victim no matter how you look
            at it because the facts clearly show the truth and always will regardless of
            whether you accept the facts or not, in fact if you don’t accept the facts you
            are only showing how much of a true moron you really are.

          • Nelson Nolan

            I don’t think he was getting at that to be honest, I think he’s getting at the fact that a majority of black people continue to say that racist losers are the reason they do what they do. I’ve stated my opinion before and I feel that Racism should be considered a crime, there should be a criminal punishment for it that is severe, there is a difference between freedom of speech and treating someone like trash because of the color of their skin, I do believe in the freedom of speech but I don’t agree with the use of racial attacks etc.

            If American’s were to stand up and make it a law, racists would be sitting in jail
            where they belong, just like any other law it takes standing up to make it happen. On another note if you are looking at Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson as being your idols of black men that overcame obstacles and became successful then you are looking in the wrong direction because neither of them are successful, they are just as guilty as any of these other criminals with their racial instigations, etc… Now if you look at someone that has been successful in any race, they aren’t the one’s standing here fighting and arguing over stupid BS.

            Also just another word of advice, the way you can tell a successful Black Man vs. a Criminal Minded Black Man? First off law abiding, successful Black Men do not use words like Nigga to talk to other Black Men, this word is not a part of their vocabulary, I know many respectful African Americans and they never use this word when they talk, however the ones that get in trouble with the law etc… Tend to use that word and other words showing that they are crooked. Just a thing to think about because it’s the truth, I have never met a person that uses the word Nigga that doesn’t violate the law in one way or another, and believe me I have friends that are Black and they use these words and I won’t get into their criminal history either and won’t discuss how many times they have been to jail. You don’t see successful Black Men such as Judge Mathis don’t talk in this way. (BTW he’s an awesome judge).

            A person regardless of race has 2 options, Option 1.) Make something of yourself, be productive and make a name for your family regardless of what others think. Option 2.) Do what your friends want you to do, act like your friends act, be like your friends because it’s what they want you to do and end up nowhere. In other words Option 1.) Be a Leader or Option 2.) Be a Follower. Every person has this choice and race is not a matter in this, something to think about. However in this Officer Wilson and Michael Brown BS Officer Wilson is the innocent victim no matter how you look at it because the facts clearly show the truth and always will regardless of whether you accept the facts or not, in fact if you don’t accept the facts you are only showing how much of a true moron you really are.

          • magormissabib

            all you said is good except for you need to define what you mean by racism and what would it take to define if as a crime. You are getting into thought crimes. Other wise it is already a crime to act upon your racism by discrimination!. A person may believe that one race is better or different than another and that is his right. In fact today being race aware or acknowledging legitimate differences between races is often perceived by the political correct as racism.

          • KingJames

            I’d be willing to bet if racism were a crime, a “disproportionate number” of blacks would be imprisoned for it.

          • Vince Kelly

            that wont happen again for a very long time Odumboo has done a shit job

          • DavidM

            I’m sorry, Guest, when was the last time you were able to pick the Irish person out of a crowd of white people? How about a black guy in a white crowd. Today, the opportunities provided to a person of Irish descent are quite different than those for a person of African descent. Why do you suppose that is? Your whole rant is incredibly misguided.

          • kimmy

            Well, it’s pretty easy to pick out any person who wears their pants to their butt crack, hat sideways, or yelling in a crowd of people….black, white or otherwise. If I were so concerned about being noticed, the last thing I would do is 1, rob a store 2, charge a police officer 3, break into local business in front of news crews and steal while all the while shouting that I’m treated differently because of my skin color rarher than my actions. Give us the real reason, because your so called blackness don’t fly with us anymore. Why are blacks so damn angry? Not because of slavery, the 13th was passed a longggggg time ago, before their time, their parent’s time, their grand parent’s time, and beyond. What’s the REAL reason? I’m sure it’s not anything whites can contol. We all just want to know why.

          • magormissabib

            you got it. Its just an excuse.

          • magormissabib

            I see a well mannerd individual , clean , who carries himself well with black skin and I think nothing of it. I see a black man in saggin pants gold chains and a duck bill who carries himslef like a thug then my antennae go up and I walk the other way. Im so sick of people who cant conduct themsleves properly blaming it on racism. I was brought up in Pittsburgh during all the race riots after the death of MLK and we were ingrained with the notion that all men are created equal, racism is a sin and a man should be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin. Stupid me , I believed it. Obviously most of the blacks missed the memo cause I have too often been the victim of race hate by blacks.

          • SynicInSF

            Well, having black skin makes it harder to blend in and pass. I’m a Mahan, and in one month the English, with their new guns, shot and killed two thousand Mahans (the people who had kept the English from expanding past the Pale). And then the English enslaved and murdered the people in the rest of Ireland. It is harder on the blacks because they can’t “pass” as individuals. And they don’t have a culture of sticking together like some other. So they are caught. But it’s also no help if the parents tell the children that they can’t win through. It’s not true and often it’s a ready made excuse for failure caused by other factors than race.

          • jackmackenna

            as an actual irish person, shut the fuck up.

          • Charles Catalano

            I’m mostly of Italian heritage. Did you know that the biggest mass-lynching in the U.S. was of ITALIAN immigrants? Of course not, that REALITY doesn’t jibe with the cultural marxism (aka political correctness) which pervades the corporate media and the highest levels of state & local governments throughout the land, in addition to (obviously) the highest level of the federal government.

          • Sara

            Your people “rose from the ashes” by pretending to be white. It’s really easy to overcome when you can assimilate. Black people’s

            Every black person lives in a slum or ghetto right?

            Let’s talk about the black TV producer who was detained for 6 hours when he was on his way to the EMMYs, recently because police incorrectly identified him. A man with a bachelor’s and a master’s who simply stopped his car on a Hollywood street to pick up cash from the ATM has all his right stripped away from him. Explain that for me please … drum up your sources on that. Oh look, I’ve got one. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_8?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=the+new+jim+crow&sprefix=the+new+%2Cstripbooks%2C203

            Racism is not a black problem — it’s a white problem because white people orchestrated it, regulated it and profit from it. The amount of racist ideology seamed in this response is proof of that. White people developed the concept of race, but when you all are called accountable for your atrocities you whine and complain, stop picking on me. You want to charge a young black man for his own murder — but you can’t admit the stuff you all have done wrong. That you continue to do wrong.

            That in itself — IS racism.

            People always want to bring up this oh, the Irish were enslaved too — but tell me; how many Irish people still suffer residual effects of that slavery? Don’t worry. I’ll wait.

            And miss me with that black-on-black crime nonsense because people are most likely to commit murder against someone of their on race, mostly due to proximity. Black people mostly live among other black people and so on. White people, white MEN are most likely to be serial killers, shooting up schools and movie theaters for no good reason. Yet there is no such thing as white-on-white crime.

          • magormissabib

            I guess its the white mans fault that 10% of the population commit 65% of the violent crimes . Maybe its time to take responsibility for yourself , Just a thought.

          • Maxima

            What a crock of sanctimonious magnanimous bullshit!

            Oh, the conceit AND the blarney of the Irish is about the only historical point you made.

            The Irish were NEVER slaves in America. Indentured servants and penal colony inhabitants (the entire state of Georgia was a penal colony for the Irish; henceforth, the largest St. Patrick’s Day Parade in the country is in Savannah, GA), but NEVER slaves. If the Irish were ever slaves, it was to ad temperament and intemperance.

            The Irish were in no small part an ugly part of American slavery. The Irish were NOT ENSLAVED alongside blacks, but rather, were the overseers, the slave shipworkers, the slave bounty hunters and slave dealers who assisted the European powers in slavery. The Irish were a cruel and bigoted people, given to
            drink, who were naturally suited to enforce the subjugation of others based on the difference in skin color.

            The Irish only “picked themselves up from their bootstraps” when they were declared WHITE. So you weren’t born white, but rather, you were declared white. The declaration was to counter the numbers of the black population. The whites wanted to undercut the self-sufficiency of the Black population after slavery and this was to effected by increasing the white population by making the Irish white. If the Irish get any credit, it is due not to the Irish, but to the Catholic Church which saw the deplorable society the Irish created, and, in an effort to increase its power in the U.S., it created acceptable codes of behavior to be adhered to (meaning that savagery in the forms of fighting, drinking, robbing and raping was no longer to be tolerated), Catholic schools were to indoctrinate this code and eliminate illiteracy while the Catholic Church fought for the right for Irish to hold jobs and live like
            “white” people.

            The ditch digger jobs became unionized and the Irish were the largest population behind unions. Unions were nothing more than a welfare system for unskilled Irish. The Irish were jealous of skilled Black ex-slaves and saw them as competition. As Blacks had no rights, the Irish committed numerous acts of violence against Blacks to eliminate competition for jobs. Unions
            solidified the right to make a living for the unskilled Irish. The Irish,
            with their nasty racist attitudes were well-suited for the career of law enforcement and it was not unusual for a half-literate Irishman with a thick brogue to be a cop in a large city.

            Across the country, countless Blacks, Latinos, Asians and even other white ethnics were closed to good paying uniformed services employment and construction jobs so that the Irish could form a political and economic power structure. The Irish, like other ethnics after them, made a deal: to subjugate blacks in exchange for being declared white; yes, white privilege. Martin Luther
            King said the racism in the Chicago unions was worse than anything he had seen in Mississippi.

            So spare us the “my ancestors were poor and nobody helped them”. Your ancestors lacked dignity, courage and morality. The Irish were known for: their Klan membership in the South and Midwest; the destructive and deadly New York anti-Civil War riots where blacks were dragged out of their homes and lynched; the
            hate-filled racism during school integration directed at small children; for being corrupt, killer cops, and nasty common prejudiced charwomen whose daughters became nasty common nurses.

            An Irishman was always available to do the dirty work for the establishment, i.e., commit violence upon Blacks and “keep Blacks in their place.” If the Black man was ever treated “better” during slavery, it was because he was more vulnerable. The Irish spoke the English language and came from a climate similar to the U.S.

            Working class intellectuals??

            There is a bit of the Kennedy in Irish types like you, and I am not talking about the intellectual part.

          • kimmy

            King James 1625 you idiot. Do you read anything besides black history?

          • Maxima

            And we are talking about America, not the Ulster Plantation
            Try and keep up.
            By the way, your people were sold out by your own people; but, then again, I can say the same thing about mine.

          • kimmy

            My people? Haha, well my people were not so different from yours. You assume too much Maxima.

          • magormissabib

            did anyone know that it was white men who fought to free the slaves in america. Wheres the gratitude?

          • magormissabib

            yikes slavery again. stop with the bullshit excuses. Its over a hundred years. If you havent overcome by now its your personal responsibility.

          • Nia

            professional victims aren’t interested in facts, they are only interested in getting special privileges and they like to tell me that they feel entitled to this and that, cause their peoples built america and made it great…. actually all that has happened is the leftist and liberals have enslaved these types of blacks and they dance for their Master to get their welfare check. conservative black americans are constantly attacked by these leftist, especially the blacks hating on the blacks…. the shame is putrid

          • magormissabib

            there we go. Rioting and looting, ruining peoples livlihood and they are the victims. lol.. I got news for you ,he was a 6’5 thug who shoved a little old man and then got agressive with the wrong guy, a cop, and got shot. serves him right. Im glad it happened before he got a chance to kill an innocent person which he probably would have done sooner or later.

          • Name

            I want no part in the race bashing people on this column, however in regard to your comments, the actions in Ferguson go well beyond demonstrating as you infer. It’s called rioting when looting, throwing rocks, molotov cocktails, Police have been occaisionally shot at and shots are heard being fired away from anywhere there are police (not PD doing it). So far there have been three people killed (of which I am aware) during these riots. One was a person with a knife who charged an officer and was thereafter shot. The other two were persons shot by other than PD. To put it in perspective, a person holding a rock as if to throw it at PD can be legally shot. A person hurling molotov cocktails can be shot, a person shooting at PD can be shot. While I do not like many of the tactics used by PD, and believe they are escalating the situation by so doing, these are definitely RIOTS. And oh by the way, every individual is responsible for his or her actions. No one else.

          • Marcy Brown

            Hows all that white privilege working for Mr. Taylor – a white teenage boy shot by a black police officer. Where’s the riots? Where’s the protests? Where’s the threat of further looting and destruction if the outcome of justice isn’t what you want? When was the last time you saw a riot happen because a white person’s rights were violated? That’s right, since never.

          • Maxima

            And how often does a black cop kill a white person??
            And if you feel strongly about it, why don’t you get up off your white privilege and protest for that white teen?
            I will tell you why: because of the tacit knowledge that cops are SUPPOSED TO KILL BLACKS, not Whites.

          • kimmy

            You’re so fucking racist that you’re blind to truth. The reason no one is rioting over Taylor is because we have accepted the truth. He was shot by a law enforcement officer, so he must have been involved in a crime. You are a white man hater, and you will never be happy because you are always looking for a reason to hate people who have done nothing to you. You’re like the jealous wife, always looking for something.

          • Maxima

            I would never waste my time hating you or anyone. But I won’t let BS slide. You are too stupid and desperately clinging to your white privilege with your last breath.
            So in your logic, the white kid was automatically involved in a crime just because he was shot by the police? That is enough prima facie evidence for you. The report said he was getting out of his car. You are so ignorant you don’t even know that the police are not to play judge and jury. The white kid was UNARMED.
            You are the racist because you will cosign with the police as long as they kill their quota of blacks. Maybe when one of your family members are tasered to death (BTW, whites get tasered and blacks get shot by the police), then hold tight to that “the cop is right” mentality. It is types like you that will make it easy for the coming police state.
            P.S., the KKK is raising funds for the cop Darren Wilson. Thought you would like to know that.

          • kimmy

            So if white people get tasered, your argument is invalid. You need to read a post from today that defines your so called ‘white privilege’ and what separates people. As to my family members being shot by police, my kids don’t rob people or punch cops, so that is not likely to happen. Once again, you’re angry at the wrong people.
            PS, what’s the difference between the Klan raising funds and Al Sharpton raising funds? None

          • Maxima

            Sharpton never lynched anyone. Oh, and the KKK not only lynched blacks, but would mutilate their genitals.
            I am no fan of Sharpton, but the KKK he is not.

          • kimmy

            Screw your Sharpton! Broke ass bitch couldn’t even pay his own debt from the case in New York. Oh, he’s far worse than the KKK, they don’t bottom feed

          • Maxima

            KKK is full of bottom feeders, which is why it was formed. Most terrorists and that type of mindset (you know, like yours) are bottom feeders who are afraid of going into sink hole status. But enough about you and yours.

          • Maxima

            You dumb POS. The white kid didn’t punch or rob anyone either that day.
            You know, enough with you and yours. I just respond to let types like you know that your white pass has been revoked. No one is tolerating your dribble.
            And you know what? You are probably orange which is why you are desperately trying so hard to uphold a credo to which you could never fully embrace.
            So what were you in for?

          • kimmy

            You are an ignarant fool, it’s such a shame the north won! Had anyone had a vision into our current state, that amendment would have been shoved up Lincolns ass. It’s a shame, you create a bad name for black people with your self lothing hostility. And unlike you, my color is irrelevant. It has played absolutely no role in my being. I am where I am today because I didn’t make up a handicap as an excuse to fail. I worked and avoided bad influence.
            I’m in for entertainment of course. It still amazes me that some people still use the race card when we have a black ELECTED president! Where have you been? Lol, yeah, I’m dumb

          • kimmy

            People like you make me sick! You probably get benifits of some kind because of your skin color, and you still bitch for more.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Dillon Taylor, an unarmed 20 year old white man was shot to death by a black cop while coming out of a 7-11. Yet, the race of the cop is being hidden by the local Salt Lake media. Even with the black cop shooting the unarmed, Dillon Taylor, there aren’t’ any riots, looting or death threats against this black cop. Taylor was 2 years older than Michael Brown, and probably about half Brown’s weight.

            Black cop kills unarmed Dillon Taylor white man – media hides cop race, no riots VIDEO

            No race riots, no corrupt media race hustling over the black cop shooting the 20 year old in cold blood. Do you see the difference when the situation is reversed? As long as a black cop kills whitey, it’s all cool.

            While national news media continue to focus on race in Ferguson, Missouri, where a white police officer shot and killed an unarmed black teenager, they apparently don’t think a similar case in Utah with the races reversed is that newsworthy.

            Police in Salt Lake City are continuing their probe into an Aug. 11 shooting outside a 7-Eleven convenience store, when a black police officer, whom local media are referring to as “not white,” shot and killed 20-year-old Dillon Taylor, who was unarmed at the time, according to his supporters.

            Police Chief Chris Burbank said the entire incident was captured on the body camera of the officer who shot Taylor.

            “You will see on camera … the actions of everyone involved, including up to the point where our officer utilizes deadly force and his response thereafter,” Burbank told reporters.

            He said the video, along with the officer’s identity, will be released at the “appropriate” time, adding it could be days, weeks or months.

            http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2014/08/21/black-cop-kills-unarmed-dillon-taylor-white-man-media-hides-cop-race-riots-video/

            I’ve been asking about this for days, I’ve wrote several news agencies and no response at all.

          • faith

            Why don’t you start a protest instead of complaining aye?

          • kimmy

            You are the brat. You use excuses to NOT forget something that NEVER happened to you. Blacks were not the first slaves, and they certainly did not suffer slavery as long or as hard as other nationalities. They only thing that seperates black people from other nationalities who have a history of slavery is anger. SO, that being said, the reason blacks are judged is not their skin color, it’s their own racism against others because they want everyone to know that somewhere in their past, there was suffering. News flash, everyone has had some form of suffering. Blacks should be grateful, at least a president fought for your race. The Jews, Irish, and so many others did not get that kind of support. Hell, they even have special scholarships, jobs and months to honor them. Don’t give any of us that sorry ass sad story. You don’t see me going around asking for special treatment because somewhere in my history, my family lost their plantation. Shouldn’t I get some benifits?

          • Maxima

            No, but if your family had a plantation that had slaves, you should be sued.
            And please tell me a culture or race that was enslaved because of its race or religion and not due to war, debt payoff or treaty?
            I’ll wait.

          • kimmy

            Sued for what. I wasn’t there, and neither was anyone alive today. That’s my point, you would judge me by something my great great grandfather did? Oh, and here’s your answer to the slavery, 1625, King James ordered the Irish into slavery to those who were establishing land in America. Next, Adolf Hitler enslaved Jews into concentration camps to build his interstates. Neither of these were for debt, I assure you. The Irish were Catholic, and the Jews were rich.

          • Maxima

            It was indentured servitude for the Irish. It was also under penal edict. Just like in Australia, an entire country of penal convicts. Also, the Irish were rebelling against King James and Protestantism. Uhm, that was war, albeit guerilla warfare. Their children WERE NOT slaves.The concentration camps were holding cells (and I don’t agree with that, it just wasn’t slavery). IT WAS NOT SLAVERY.
            But since you bring up the concentration camps, the reparations that were given to the Jews absolved the sins of the sons and daughters of Germany. So why use an example if you don’t agree with the entire history.
            I don’t blame you for what your great-great grandfather did. But his mulatto descendants should have been compensated and received that inter-generational wealth. All slaveowners were devoid of morality, even Jefferson.

          • kimmy

            The Jews worked, no pay, and often unfed. That is slavery. As to only the mulatto descendants getting compensated, you might want to dig more into the story. Perhaps he was the mulatto?? Does that surprise you? Look up colleges in LA, then cross reference to plantation owners. Oh yes, there were many ‘mulatto’ slave owners.

          • Maxima

            Well if your ancestors were mulattos, then it proves my point. You came from nothing and since you were never taught morality, ethics or character, then you are incapable of exercising such qualities.
            Mulattos were the offspring of the crimes rape and unwanted sexual molestation by degenerate white overseers and plantation owners and their sons. These crimes went unpunished. Girls as young as 8 were fair game. Rape was seen as the “right of defloweration” which was common practice in Europe for lords of the manor and that mentality was in full effect on slave ships, slave plantations and slave auction houses.
            Yep, savagery is in your DNA — and not only Black Americans, but Native Americans, Chinese Americans and Japanese Americans (who were incarcerated like the Jews were in WWII) will attest to the savagery of white racists like you. Your proud mention of the plantations in KY and LA of your family describes your descent from rapists, child molesters, homosexual rape and gang rape, murderers and the original destroyers in America of the family. Since you reference the KKK so much, it was common practice of the KKK to rape a black woman in her own house in front of her husband. The evidence is irrefutable due to the existence of the mulattos.
            You are just smart enough to see that the reign of your ilk is coming to an end.

          • Maxima

            Let me revise the first sentence: if you are a descendant of white slave owners who produced mulattos…

          • kimmy

            Once again Minima, you got me. You may want to jump ahead to the 21st century, we call them mixed now.
            What is coming to an end is your race card, it’s being replaced with the joker.

          • kimmy

            Oh, and that plantation, it was actually 2. One in LA and one in KY. Google it, you will be very surprised to find out about your own culture. You might even actually have to sue yourself

          • faith

            Ignore Kimmy; she is off her meds. She has a diluted version of history and slavery.

          • Maxima

            You know Faith, you called it. It is either a chemical imbalance or “orange is the new black”, LOL!!

          • blhubbs

            I think that Michael Brown had problems. This does not mean he should have died, but, if you saw the tape of the convenience store altercation and theft, he was definitely acting in an intimidating way, physically shoving the smaller store clerk and brazenly walking out with merchandise that he didn’t purchase. He also turned to give a very aggressive posture to the clerk he pushed, intimidated and stole from. Not good. He did not deserve to be shot but, he was not a nice young man.

          • Maxima

            Agreed

          • Mike Smith

            “Its only when people who are not White do it, its called rioting!” Really? Name the Tea Party protest that turned into rioting and looting.

          • disillusioneddem

            Protesting is fine. Looting is not. Selective focus with accountability is not helping. My ancestors did not come here until the 1900s. Please stop holding me accountable. See what you are doing, there? You are holding me accountable for other whites, but don’t want blacks to be held accountable at all.

          • Reverend Bacon

            “Its only when people who are not White do it, its called rioting!”

            Maybe because, when people who are not White do it, it generally IS rioting.

          • Tammy

            Get over the slave sh*t this is 2014.

          • Maxima

            Get over your smug racism, it is 2014

          • Irving

            White privilege didn’t round up the blacks when the slave traders came over the horizon.

            Save your slogans for Sharpton.

          • Maxima

            No, but white greed did.

          • kimmy

            Actually, slaves were sold by their own people. Read a damn history book written by someone other than radicals

          • Irving

            There was no greed involved with the blacks who rounded up the other blacks for Trade?

            Are slogans all you Revisionists have?

          • Maxima

            Of course there was greed.
            But how does that absolve white greed?
            Whites continued and continue their rapacious greed with colonialism and imperialism.
            The most flagrant example is Iraq, Libya Syria and Palestine. Organized European Grand Scale Murder.
            Ah, but let’s see what Russia, and Eastern Europe (Slavs) respond to this millennial form of attempted conquer.

          • Irving

            Good luck with your microcephaly.

          • Peter

            “Protesting is as American as apple pie. Its only when people who are not White do it, its called rioting!”

            Burning down buildings and looting is not protesting, that’s what’s called rioting no matter who does it. When the occupy movement was rioting, it wasn’t called protesting, it was called rioting, even when the vandals were white.

            As for him being a brat, if it’s true that he assaulted the officer, he didn’t get shot for being a brat and not listening.

          • http://Thebeautybeat.com tiamariacat

            Sorry double zero , but looting , stealing other peoples belongings, burning down businesses owned by innocent people is NOT “protesting”. It proves the point that your people are looking for nothing more than to take advantage of the system & fellow citizens. It also further denigrates the very traits your people are trying to disprove.

            ” Oh, the joys of being white & privileged” – yes, we get to get up every morning & go to work so that a bunch of America haters can sit around all day painting ” WE ARE ISIS ” on tee- shirts while munching on steak bought with EBT cards that we have to sacrifice for o provide. Most “privileged whites” are working class people. WE keep this country ticking, while all of this other crap is commencing thanks to the unproductive sector of this country ( which is growing ever larger by the day ) . And no, the pack of idiots ARE NOT ISIS and never will be.

            The ” privileged whites” go without the basic necessities (like food) so that the “oppressed” can hang out all day on our dime. If you consider that to be ‘privilege’, then you need to learn what the word means.

            And what ‘guest’ is saying below is true yet no white person is looking for “special reparitions,” ( aka ‘priviliege’ ) . Where are our special reparitions? And yes, you can bet we WILL be in that line.
            Fact: Michael Brown is a gang member. He thought he was too cool ( ‘privileged’ ) to have to listen to a white cop. Now he is dead.

          • kimmy

            You rock! I would love to see this published!

          • http://Thebeautybeat.com tiamariacat

            Thanks Kimmy ! This so called ‘ white privilege ‘ crap makes me laugh. I am reminded of it everyday as I come home from work & my ‘oppressed’ neighbors come home from a hard day at the beach. My share of the ‘ white privilege’ seems to have gone missing somehow….

          • kimmy

            Ditto. It would be nice if my being white benifited my children in some way. You know, my kid having to work durring her summer break from college because my parent loan has me tapped out kinda sucked for her. We tried for the white scholarship, still waiting, lol

          • Maxima

            You had 400 years to catch up. College scholarship? More like remedial social class. And, there are plenty of white people in college who are on scholarship, much more than black. But keep worrying about the Back people as the Asians sail right on by. They are a force in academia and I am not mad at them.

          • Tammie Marshall

            TY

          • Vince Kelly

            its rioting when you loot the local black merchant stores and rob and burn

            dont matter what color your skin is ,evil doing has no skin color it is what it is

          • DeathMerchant

            This entire thing wouldn’t exist had Lincoln been able to follow through with his plans for repatriation. By the way, any time that white people riot and cause destruction to property or others and resist the commands of police, it is called rioting. I can’t recall when white people riots were also accompanied by widespread looting, perhaps you can enlighten me???

          • Carl McGee

            If “special allowances” equal not being targeted by law enforcement, not being the subject of unconstitutional laws, and descriminatory practices then YES, I agree…

          • magormissabib

            bullsheet cops violate the rights and kill all people, Just they dont riot an loot their neighbors over it.

          • Tammie Marshall

            yes like slavery

          • magormissabib

            shut up about slavery. White men fought and died to free the blacks from the slavery other black men sold them into. you ingrate. You were born free thanks to them.

          • Maxima

            After they rioted in NY and lynched blacks in the southern part of Manhattan. And, let’s be clear, the end of slavery was a result of the Civil War, the 3/5 rule and the South’s control of Congress was the cause of it.

      • Eric

        except the police NEVER have been found by the review system to have done an unlawful shoot. Never.

      • Gmoney fat stacks

        the rioting started because 1. the cop was sent home with pay and 2. they wouldnt release the name of the officer that did it. Which to you may not matter but to the community its a slap in the face.

        • Puckett

          Gmoney I don’t know if you’re black or white. Doesn’t matter to me. But I do know you’re an idiot for thinking they should post the officer’s name and address. Why not just put a target on his back? Since you or I don’t know what happened there why would you think it should all be released within hours of the shooting? It would all come out in time anyway and likely after emotions have died down a little. As far as being sent home with pay……that’s a deal that popped up long ago for anyone in public service. My guess is it was started by the unions or perhaps those pesky folks who think one is innocent until proven guilty.

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            So I am an idiot for posting why the riot happening..it’s a fact deal with it….and who the fuck said address? Did you see anywhere I said I agree or disagree that the name should’ve been given. So you called me an idiot based your own assumption…grow up…..name calling is so juvenile

          • kimmy

            The people of that neighborhood should have to pay all the business owners back. If they should die before the loss is met, their children should have to pay, down to their grand children and so on. The only people who would be exempt are people new to the area. If I were in charge, it would be witheld from their tax refunds, until they die, or move out of the county. Within 5 years, Ferguson might grow into an attractive area for those who coomute to St Charles

          • Tammy

            Although, I understand what you mean about the bs of ruining their very own community, there’s no way to know WHO did it. As well as the fact that “people new to the area” could have been involved as well as out of towners.
            Be real, never happen.

          • kimmy

            Cities put ‘temporary’ taxes in place all the time. Our city had a restaurant tax to cover a new stadium. I agree, it was not everyone’s fault in that town, however, a communities growth and success depends on the people of that community. It is apparent that there were not too many ‘community leaders’ or ‘role models’ in that city, and this needs to be a lesson to all. Unfortunately for some, the only way to get their attention is by taking their money. A ‘rebuild’ tax sounds fair to me. You don’t think we’re already paying part of it? FEMA?? Just saying, I pay, they should pay more

          • Tony

            I think Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson & CNN, NBC, etc. Should have to pay for Ferguson’s rebuild.

          • 12Toastie12

            I agree thats why the riot happened, but they arent right for wanting his name. Unless the cop is on the run (and he’s not) then the people have no business knowing his name. And finally he went home with pay because he is innocent until proven guilty. I promise that if he is found guilty all that pay gets fined from his estate right back.

          • gerry

            although I agree with you 100% concerning the release of Wilson’s name, I see a big double standard. I’m sure Dr. George Tiller and many others in his profession would have wanted that same protection. Instead his picture, name, home address and phone number were given out by police to the media which in turn broadcasted it. That info was then printed on flyers and plastered all around town resulting in his murder. I didn’t see any police protecting him. Why is a line drawn for the police officer. Dr. Tiller went to work in just as much, if not more, danger than a police officer.

        • macgeneral

          What is more concerning to me is that proper procedure does not seem to have been followed. The officer should have been questioned and provided a statement on the record for the police report (not publicly). And it will be interesting to see what comes of the redacted report with missing or obscured data. I think the thing has been mangled by the locals and that’s going to present problems.

          • DT

            Another department immediately took over the investigation. Their reports are part of the ongoing investigation into the officer’s actions. For those of you who want Ofc. William’s head on a platter, why do you wish the investigating department taint the investigation into his actions by releasing reports, photos, documents that are part of the investigation? If they did so, they give Ofc. Williams a loophole if he is guilty of any wrong doing.

            It is amazing to me how many people have no problem heaping multiple conspiracies involving multiple parties in order to make Ofc. Williams the bad guy. It’s become a conspiracy buffet, if you will. Any time you have to have any number of conspiracies to make your story fit your idea of what happened, your story has problems. The truth is generally linear, it’s generally simple. It doesn’t require wild scenarios to work. K.I.S.S. principle.

        • K.L.

          All police officers, no matter what precinct/municipality they belong to, are given PTO during any pending investigation. It is standard for all cases.

        • Tammy

          “►they wouldnt release the name of the officer that did it.”◄

          The only reason they didn’t was to protect him. They were worried someone would have killed him.

        • Nelson Nolan

          When you have a society of criminals, you don’t just release any officer or person for that matter’s name until they are in a safe place. They gave Officer Wilson plenty of time to get to safety from these criminals before releasing his name. However the Officer that shot Dillon Taylor 20 year old white unarmed man with a warrant for his arrest for probation violation whom according to witnesses never ran from cop, didn’t assault cop, had earphones on and couldn’t hear cop, was shot to death because he didn’t follow the Officer’s orders because he couldn’t hear, and the cop is black. Happened in South Salt Lake City, Utah on August 11th, 2014. You don’t hear about this on the news though. This Officer’s name still hasn’t been released so what about this?

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            Yes I did hear about the issue in Utah… Don’t make me laugh, for every 1 story you have like that we have 10. And I’m not even talking about getting beat up, stopped and asked “where u going” or “what are you doing around here” that shit happens everyday. This is why black people are so angry and white people don’t get it. They think it’s about mike brown, it’s not. Its this notion that we aren’t as good as everyone else. We are always portrayed as thugs or hoes in the media. Whenever someone mentions welfare it’s blacks folks that gets mentioned, regardless of the fact that there’s way more white people on welfare than blacks. White people walk around with AR-15s and no one cares, a black guy picks up a BB gun in the toy section of walmart, cops get called guy is shot! Having someone clinch there purse or lock their door when you walk by , does something to you over the years mentally

          • Nelson Nolan

            However I never said I am for racism because I hate racism, I believe in God, & I believe we are all equal. The facts are the facts, Officer Wilson is innocent & using this particular case to claim racism doesn’t solve a damn thing. You don’t convict innocent people for what others have done. My concern here is that you all say Michael Brown is innocent while all the facts clearly show that he’s not. Instead of putting your time into real victims of racial hate crimes such as with Trayvon Martin whom I do believe was a victim of racial hate as shown by the violent actions of George Zimmerman after he was found not guilty.

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            I agree about Zimmerman but we don’t get to choose what gets attention and what doesn’t. I personally think the guy shot over the toy BB gun, in walmart is much worse than this. The issue here isn’t about innocent or guilt, it’s about shooting and unarmed persons with their arms in the air.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Again all evidence that’s legitimate clearly shows Michael Brown did not have his hands in the air, but did rush at the Officer. After assaulting Officer Wilson the first time almost knocking him unconscious & trying to get his gun, Officer Wilson had every right to be in fear for his life, justifying the use of deadly force when Michael was running back at him. Using this as a reason to fight for justice about Trayvon Martin or the guy in Walmart just doesn’t work because this clearly is self-defense & crying wolf on something like this really only makes it harder to prove the other ones because now it looks like anyone will claim guilt on an Officer regardless of whether they’re guilty, seriously think about it.

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            I’ve read a few articles and all I see is that Wilson said brown tried to grab the gun. The reports also say the cop used vulgar language upon approaching brown and his friend in the first place. Witness say at the point of the shoot brown was turned away with his has up when shot 4 times in the arm and twice in the head. How does any of this make brown guilty worthy of getting shot

          • Nelson Nolan

            And while all you see is what incredible witnesses say, you base your evidence on Dorian Johnson who stated Michael was shot in the back, yet autopsy shows all 6 bullet wounds are from the front. Most credible witness is in the video recording while Michael’s body is laying in the street. That witness clearly stated Michael was in Officer Wilson’s vehicle (not in the window), it also states Michael was running at the Officer. That’s the most reliable witness because unlike the rest, he didn’t know he was being recorded, nor did he know what he was stating would ever be used as evidence, therefore unlike the rest, he had no reason at all to lie or twist the truth of what happened. Tiffany Mitchell & Piaget Crenshaw didn’t even come into the picture until days later indicating clearly they had time to make up shit, memorize their bogus statements, & present false shit. Their video didn’t show any substantial evidence either. If they were real they would have made statements the day it happened, they just wanted their 5 minutes of fame period.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Another thing to note is it’s not unusual for a cop to use vulgar language, however to say “Get the Fuck on the sidewalk” as Dorian Johnson put it is outrageous, then again anything that Dorian Johnson said happened is outrageous. If you look at his interview with Fox 2 the first day who is standing beside him? Michael Brown’s Cousin on his left side & on his right side is Anthony Shahid, you may want to research your facts here:

            GotNews.com has already identified one black panther involved in the initial framing of the Ferguson story.

            Today we examine Anthony Shahid, a racist, radical black community activist who showed up everywhere during the Ferguson protests.

            http://gotnews.com/meet-racist-anti-white-black-muslim-militant-michaelbrown-protests/

            because GotNews has a point, this guy is everywhere, & I mean everywhere where there is a witness claiming Michael Brown is innocent, quite funny if you ask me, it clearly shows just how framed this whole story is, you can frame the public, but you can’t frame the facts.

      • Ruki

        The justice system isn’t fair though. They’re arresting people for protesting, isn’t that illegal?

        • Nelson Nolan

          According to rules of protesting, if you violate the law you are subject to being arrested regardless, if these people were acting like adults and being civil they wouldn’t be getting arrested, however instead they want to act like immature children instead of adults, throwing urine at the cops, etc… hell they deserve to be locked up.

          • Ruki

            What law are they violating? Standing still? Isn’t that what a peaceful protest is?

          • Nelson Nolan

            First off throwing Urine at anyone is a crime, firing guns at others is a crime, they weren’t just standing still or they wouldn’t be in jail. Get your facts straight before you just assume things.

          • Tammy

            Hmm…gee, look below! Did yo even see that comment?!

          • Nelson Nolan

            Actually yeah I did see that comment, however I don’t have time to respond to every comment especially with the fact that I have been commenting on many sites not just this one and have been researching stuff as well. Again I said sorry for going off on you, the phrase you said just made it seem like you were making fun of the fact that Officer Wilson is on paid leave and I took action on that.

          • Tammy

            I just seen your other comment and now this one and accept your apology. Who knows, maybe there will be something I have said to have to do the same! The statement I made about the time off with pay did not mean I was on the side of MB by all means. Just so you know, lol.

          • Ruki

            And the cop that had a pointed rifle at someone in the middle of a protest saying I’ll F—ing kill you, and when being asked his name, says Go F–k yourself. That’s a cop acting like an adult, immature child or dangerous person?

          • Miguel

            ….and this cop was disciplined… was he not?

          • gerry

            only because he was caught on video.

          • Tammy

            Oh yeah big time, hard core discipline with time off and with pay! Wow. :/

          • Nelson Nolan

            LMAO he was fired God people none of you seem to research anything you go off gossip and hearsay, if you did your research before you opened your mouths, you might actually have something real to talk about. You all talk about how bad the cops are etc.. but if I had to face this everyday I would be quick to shoot someone too:

            Dillon Taylor, an unarmed 20 year old white man was shot to death by a black cop while coming out of a 7-11. Yet, the race of the cop is being hidden by the local Salt Lake media. Even with the black cop shooting the unarmed, Dillon Taylor, there aren’t’ any riots, looting or death threats against this black cop. Taylor was 2 years older than Michael Brown, and probably about half Brown’s weight.

            Black cop kills unarmed Dillon Taylor white man – media hides cop race, no riots VIDEO

            No race riots, no corrupt media race hustling over the black cop shooting the 20 year old in cold blood. Do you see the difference when the situation is reversed? As long as a black cop kills whitey, it’s all cool.

            While national news media continue to focus on race in Ferguson, Missouri, where a white police officer shot and killed an unarmed black teenager, they apparently don’t think a similar case in Utah with the races reversed is that newsworthy.

            Police in Salt Lake City are continuing their probe into an Aug. 11 shooting outside a 7-Eleven convenience store, when a black police officer, whom local media are referring to as “not white,” shot and killed 20-year-old Dillon Taylor, who was unarmed at the time, according to his supporters.

            Police Chief Chris Burbank said the entire incident was captured on the body camera of the officer who shot Taylor.

            “You will see on camera … the actions of everyone involved, including up to the point where our officer utilizes deadly force and his response thereafter,” Burbank told reporters.

            He said the video, along with the officer’s identity, will be released at the “appropriate” time, adding it could be days, weeks or months.

            http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2014/08/21/black-cop-kills-unarmed-dillon-taylor-white-man-media-hides-cop-race-riots-video/

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOyUOfY1j3g

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXVr4-8RurY

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftbPz7PpEQ0

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOyUOfY1j3g

            In this video you see a big black guy standing in the road and you see how crazy he is, even being tazed he still resists arrest, then you think a tazer would have stopped Michael Brown from attacking Officer Wilson, then you try to say he should have used pepper spray or his tazer, get fucking real moron, we should have a guy Michael Brown’s size come at you and show you what a guy that size can do, maybe then you’ll rethink your logic after having your face beat in.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWbQ3xOazNU

            Battle Creek Officer Shoots and Kills “Gentle Giant” just like Michael Brown he must be innocent right?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GlMtOpt-2g

            12 year old boy punches police officer so hard it almost knocks him out.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUHJ-Wq4PuY

            http://www.tpnn.com/2014/08/24/video-police-officer-beaten-to-a-pulp-by-unarmed-man/

            A Black Soldier In Full Uniform Attacks An Oregon State Trooper.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1gYEG1TzBk

            http://thedailybanter.com/2014/08/fox-news-really-wants-know-three-blacks-killed-white/

            Then you low-life crackheads stereotype all Police Officers saying they are all racist as you have with Officer Wilson, yet this video shows the real truth that these officer’s you call racist, you call murderers have hearts, this video clearly shows a White Police Officer in San Diego, California buying cookies for an African American kid that he doesn’t even know because the kid is short on change. The conversation he had with this kid was the last conversation he ever had as he was gunned down in his patrol car not even 3 minutes later.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4h_2vBVwUA

            This is what officers deal with in order to protect and serve the public, then you don’t expect them to shoot to kill anyone that poses a death threat of any kind on them?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebTM7zp41Vk

            And then you want to call this racist? Black guy shoots cop in head, hits cop multiple times with his gun when it doesn’t work to finish killing him, eventually the cop is able to fight this low-life in which is by the grace of God because this fugitive tries to take his gun so he can kill him. Then we hear these low-life’s in Ferguson crying Racist, Murderer, get fucking real. Honestly they should have executed this black guy in this video. Anyone that can do something like this regardless of race should be executed, no questions asked.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAUhKuMNeAI

            Time and time again we hear about Police Involved shootings, time and time again we hear how the police were wrong, in some cases they are, however in a good majority of cases they aren’t wrong, they are only defending themselves. This is only some of the videos of cops doing what they have to do in order to protect their life from dangerous criminals.

            Dashcam video from deadly lookout pass shooting released:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdeqMKEflug

            Dashcam video from May ’09 Reservation Shooting Released:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQEWRCohxdg

            Body cams show final moments of deadly 2012 shooting.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiXLnYH9e4k

            This guy is an army vet that wants suicide by cop, he’s heavily armed and has a bullet proof vest on, while it’s hard to see on the body cam of the officer, he was on the phone with police dispatcher the whole time:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1GwRhlpmQo

            9-1-1 call with Jed Zillmer Army vet, taken during shooting incident:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7l0htcXXjg

            Video shows robbery suspect shot, killed by Spokane Police.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar6VX2QK110

            3 die in California Bank robbery, gun battle, high-speed chase:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma-1YNHYbt4

            Bank robber killed by Phoenix Police:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOKeC0Y1Pno

            SWAT TEAM SHOOTOUT

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIKqxzWJ0D0

            Bank Robber Unleashes AK-47 on Sheriffs Officers

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKU7PLk1oSU

            Christopher Dorner Shootout Caught on Video

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYS5uyZuoZU

            Police Fatal Shootout Caught On Dashcam Video 12/10/09

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57NJMaH2yqk

            Dramatic Video: Police Dash Cam Fatal Shooting

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLRPe_rRsrg

            And here we have a black robbery suspect fighting a white cop in which he takes the cops baton and starts beating the officer. A bystander records this on their phone, however no one steps in to help the cop, the person recording doesn’t use the phone to call for help, the cop ends up firing shots in which the suspect is hit 4 times, suspect is now looking at Attempted Murder and other charges and the cop is justified in his actions, Just as Officer Wilson was in his actions.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=revQfB-OM14

            Officer in ‘fight for life’ before shooting

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cb2UjmF-Rc

            Dramatic Texas Shootout Caught on tape:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U4958F901g

            Car Chase Ends In Gunfight

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdnwTR8kyk0

            Daring Witness Helped Ogden Officer Engage the Shooter:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYam1pczNeM

            Armed Good Samaritan Praised for, Saving Policeman’s Life in Shooting Standoff:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jk4D0THoU4

            Judge Resentences Inmate that saved a corrections officer’s life to “Get out of Jail Free” and this inmate mind you is an African American male. This only shows that the justice system is not racist as being presented in Ferguson, Missouri.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Om5O71KAK0

            Documentary World’s Scariest Police Shootouts

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amRvzu-ERaQ

          • Tammy

            WTF is wrong with you dude for real???! If you hadn’t noticed on any of your up voters that I was one of them! My 1 statement that you chose to put all this shit under was referring to the officer that it went down with at the time! Don’t try to be bashing me for shit!

          • Nelson Nolan

            Well excuse the hell out of me, I’m not here for kudos or 1 ups, I could care less about that and don’t even look at that to be honest, I don’t care for popularity. All I saw was what you said about “Oh yeah, hardcore discipline, with time off and pay!” and that in itself to me sounded like you were taking sides with the support for a criminal getting killed because he chose to attack an Officer, therefore I went off so sorry to come across that way, I’ve been letting the frustration of this whole situation get to me which is part of the reason that I’m not really to interested in hearing about it anymore and have hardly been getting on the computer lately. You can explain a situation to a criminal all you want, they aren’t going to hear it and they are going to take the side of other criminals for the simple fact they hate the police. I’ve seen what the police go through and how quickly a situation can turn deadly on them in a fraction of a second, therefore I don’t blame them 1 bit for being quick on the draw, this is why smart people do as they are told, don’t reach for things such as their wallet, etc… you don’t give them a reason to think you are getting ready to attack them, you don’t run the risk of getting shot.

          • kimmy

            I think she was quoting, I also jump to conclusions. Tammy is much better at this blogging than I am, lol

          • Tammy

            ►”…went off so sorry to come across that way, I’ve been letting the frustration of this whole situation get to me…”◄

            Yes, I can tell by your comments. You and I are on the out skirts looking in, so now we can at least understand how all those people feel and are reacting the way they are due to the frustration of it all.

          • Tammy

            My comment I send replying to you isn’t showing here that I can see. Did you receive it through the Disqus site or something? I hate how these things work!

            Anyway, I just wanted to add one thing regarding your statement…”I’m not here for kudos or 1 ups, I could care less about that and don’t even look at that to be honest, I don’t care for popularity.”…It’s good to look at them at least once in awhile to see who is “liking” what you have to say because if one makes a comment/reply you may understand where they are coming from regarding the topic(s). As noted, I had “liked” some of your comments, therefore meaning I am agreeable with most of what you are stating.

            With that being said, I think I am done here in this thread it’s a dead horse. IMO MB was at fault and the officer did what he had to do.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Well again like I said, sorry I took your comment the wrong way. If you had posted comments to as many sites as I have on this you would see why I don’t look at likes & kudos. I generally don’t get involved in the news but after hearing Michael Brown everyday I got fed up & started researching to see what the truth was. I’m back to playing my PS3 now though & focusing on getting a job. I still check my site http://www.facebook.com/officerdarrenwilsonferguson daily but I know the truth & there’s no reason to argue about it. If you want to check out my site you can.

          • Tammy

            Yes I know you apologized and in my comment I thanked you and accepted. Yes, I can imagine how many areas you were commenting about this story in, I have done the same with other stories.
            Getting back to your PS3 and looking for a job, yeah these things sometimes get in the way of such activities! LOL!!
            Nope there’s no point in arguing about it with anyone because I believe the officer is innocent as well. Others of course feel differently than we do, but that’s their prerogative and at the end of the day it is up to the courts to decide. I just hope they aren’t blind sighted by the things MB had done that day and in his past (to show his

          • Nelson Nolan

            Well no harm done, I am just going to cut back on my time to this now because nothing is new anymore really and until there’s new stuff for this case it’s pointless to read and re-read the same stuff every day. The comments daily also amaze me at how many moron’s there really are in America, I guess I never thought the stupidity level was so high, but hell at least that leaves plenty of room for people like me with Degrees in College jobs so I’m not going to complain much.

          • Tammy

            ►” am just going to cut back on my time to this now because nothing is new anymore really and until there’s new stuff for this case it’s pointless to read and re-read the same stuff every day.”◄

            Me either because as you stated, there’s nothing new & it’s pointless.

            ►”The comments daily also amaze me at how many moron’s there really are in America, I guess I never thought the stupidity level was so high…”◄

            Ha! It certainly doesn’t surprise me, nothing does anymore!

            It was nice talking with you and you have a good night…and life! :)

          • Tammy

            Yup apparently Disqus’s comment section that we are suppose to be able to comment back straight from our notifications obviously isn’t working. I wrote a comment to you there and came here to see if it was here & of course it’s not!

            ►” am just going to cut back on my time to this now because nothing is new anymore really and until there’s new stuff for this case it’s pointless to read and re-read the same stuff every day…”

            Agreed, as am I, for the same reason’s you mentioned.

            ►”The comments daily also amaze me at how many moron’s there really are in America, I guess I never thought the stupidity level was so high…”◄

            Oh it doesn’t surprise me one bit! Nothing really does anymore.

            It was nice “meeting” & discussing the story with you. I wish you the best in all you do in your future endeavors. ;)

          • Tammy

            IDK what your referring to , but “Wilson was placed on paid administrative leave after the shooting of Brown” and Lt. Ray Albers, 46, stepped down from the St. Ann police department on Thursday, the St. Louis Dispatch reported. The resignation comes just a little over a week after The Huffington Post and other outlets confirmed Albers’ identity in footage of the officer threatening civilians protesting the death of Michael Brown.”

          • Nelson Nolan

            Well honestly I never kept up with that Officer however the same reporters that have been posting this bogus shit about Michael Brown being innocent posted that he was fired, therefore I quit paying attention to that officer, however I don’t blame him a bit with making threats to people that throw urine because they deserve that. Not once did he pull the trigger, so cry me a river. Punks got treated like the punks they are & I’m supposed to feel sorry for them? My main reason for even being in this conversation is to support the justice of an innocent officer, not to support the immaturity of criminals that back up a disrespectful low-life that tried to kill an officer doing his job. We already know how brain dead these losers are just based on the fact that the facts show clearly that Officer Wilson is innocent yet they still cry racism, murder, etc… Stupid people can’t figure out reality, it’s not their fault as they don’t have the intelligence to do so.

          • Tammy

            ►”Well honestly I never kept up with that Officer however the same reporters that have been posting this bogus shit about Michael Brown being innocent posted that he was fired, therefore I quit paying attention to that officer…”◄

            IMO I don’t feel MB is innocent either. Everyone calling it racist is trumping up stuff probably for monetary reasons among other things. Although, I won’t speak of how their intelligence is or being “losers” because that’s not for me to say as I do not know anyone.
            So if the reporter you have been following posted the cop was fired and you “quit paying attention to that officer” are you still following the reporter? Just wondering because there may be other things they are reporting that differ as well. it’s hard to find reputable reporters these days. :/

          • Nelson Nolan

            I personally don’t follow any reporter just for that reason, to be honest I have no respect at this point for the media as this case just clearly shows how they twist things. This racial war being instigated by the media is meant to turn sides against sides in order to benefit the political aspect. In the end one side will be reporting if you vote for them you will support people that do this…. when it’s really not the case. Aside from that, my only interest in this whole matter was to figure out who was guilty and who wasn’t in which all evidence points to Michael Brown being innocent. This has only shown me just how many people out there have no respect for those that put their life on the line to protect others and it’s pretty sad. If criminals didn’t give cops a reason to be so quick to pull their gun and shoot we wouldn’t have this problem, however time and time again it has been shown how an officer’s choice in a fraction of a second decision can be the difference in whether they live to see the end of their shift. It only takes a second for a criminal to pull a gun and shoot fatally wounding an Officer in which is why they are quick to make decisions when it comes to having to shoot someone, now if you just cooperate and don’t make any sudden actions, you don’t end up getting shot dead, problem solved.

          • Tammy

            Agreed.

            ►”Aside from that, my only interest in this whole matter was to figure out who was guilty and who wasn’t in which all evidence points to Michael Brown being innocent.”◄

            Well hopefully the courts find the real truth because IMO the officer did what he had to do. MB would be alive but for the fact he wanted to play tough guy when the officer was simply telling them to get out of the road. MB started the altercation and the officer ended it, in my eyes.

            ►…”now if you just cooperate and don’t make any sudden actions, you don’t end up getting shot dead…”◄

            Exactly. However, criminal minds don’t think that way.

          • kimmy

            You ever been involved in something like this? This officer is on paid leave because thus far, there is no evidence proving he has done anything wrong. The case is under investigation, and until there is clear evidence that this officer acted outside of his ‘SOPs’ then there is no ground fore trminating his employment. To terminate someone from ‘hearsay’ creates a ground for a lawsuit. This is standard in any job, from janitor to CEO of fortune 500s. What is worse, it now involves race. Let’s remove the ‘civilian to law enforcement’ scenario, and bring it to a working class level. Someone claims misconduct based on race, then a company loses all power to handle the situation. It now becomes a case of equal rights and the ACLU, all ran by liberals with a blind view of justice. These groups do not consider what is right for their country, and they’ve all made up their mind long before hearing a case. They’ve spent their lives looking for the negative, so they never try to hear both sides. This man will lose his job, and at 28 his future has been laid out for him by these race crying, law breaking people. What really sucks is, in 5 years, most of the people who have done this to him will be living on our dime, and all the while these same advocates will secretly complain about it. Liberals generally have no values, so it’s easy for them to side with criminals. That’s what’s wrong with this country!

          • Tammy

            ►”You ever been involved in something like this?”◄

            Although that has no bearing on anything, no. Have YOU?

            ►”This officer is on paid leave because thus far, there is no evidence proving he has done anything wrong. The case is under investigation, and until there is clear evidence that this officer acted outside of his ‘SOPs’ then there is no ground fore trminating his employment.”◄

            Well no kidding. I KNOW this why do you feel the need to explain this to me?? If you are stating all this due to this comment…”Oh yeah big time, hard core discipline with time off and with pay!” it was not meant as anything other than the fact that’s what all officer’s start off at due to reasons YOU stated!! As a matter of fact, I’m deleting that comment because apparently it’s being misconstrued by some people.

            ►”Liberals generally have no values, so it’s easy for them to side with criminals.”◄

            I won’t comment on that because it’s just rude and judgmental political propaganda in which really has no bearing to even be included in your statement. Saying a group of people have no values is like saying you (and/or your political group) have no morals…rude & judgmental of me right? An before you place judgement on me assuming I am a Lib, don’t.

          • kimmy

            Question #1, sort of. It’s my job. I didn’t mean to offend you, that was not my intention. I was sort of adding to your statement. I have some experience in this, well, not exactly this, but I’ve had to defend people (companies) against false accusations. Generally it involves gender, however, race is often used. I hate to see decent people’s lives ruined over short term anger, and worse, retaliation. As to my liberal comment, that is one statement I won’t retract. I’ve yet to see any good come from liberal views.

          • Tammy

            Well, it seems to me that we agree on most of all this. It’s sometimes difficult to tell one’s real intentions, side of things, or even opinions, through writing and texting.
            Back to the “liberal” views, as I said I don’t like to do the political bashing crap so we will just agree to disagree on any political views, lol.

          • kimmy

            And this is not to go against your comment, it’s more like a conclusion. I’m just adding to some of what you’ve already said, so to speak. I’m wordy, so I like to finish peoples stories

          • Tammy

            I don’t see anything other than this comment under my name from you so I really don’t know where your “conclusion/adding to some of what…” I had said due to you liking to finish people’s stories as you put it. So which comment of mine were you adding to??? Lol.

          • Tammy

            He resigned.

          • 12Toastie12

            that guy should have been imprisoned..

          • Tammy

            Another bully, for lack of a better word, is what he is!

          • Nelson Nolan

            LMAO you really are a complete moron, you know that? When you have a bunch of disrespectful punks screaming, throwing urine at you, and even shooting at you, shit as soon as the shots started I think they should have just done operation clean sweep which would have solved the whole problem, however instead they fire tear gas and rubber bullets. I know I’d be pretty pissed and when a person is pissed they say shit they don’t mean, everyone knows that.
            Honestly if that cop was really going to kill them he would have started shooting right? He let his anger get to him and it got him fired, however I still think he was justified in what he said with the way these morons were acting because just like you, just like the morons that believe fiction over fact, he has the right to freedom of speech too right? He made 1 mistake though, he forgot to state in his opinion, if he had stated “In my opinion I’ll fucking kill you” there wouldn’t be a damn thing you or anyone else could do because as long as you say “In my opinion” first you can say anything you want and if he would have got fired then that would have been a major civil rights lawsuit.
            Meanwhile we have a traitor to the USA as president and everyone is so stuck on this fake ass bullshit to even pay attention to the fact that our president who clearly stated we don’t negotiate with terrorists traded 3 top Al Quida terrorists without permission during war, has been responsible for the death of many of our soldiers, and continues to violate the laws in every way he can, plays golf when our people are beheaded, golf is just so important right?
            Get fucking real, Michael Brown was killed in self-defense, this racial bull shit is just to distract you morons from what’s really happening, wake up and smell the roses or the ISIS will do it for you buddy. Study the reality of this, study what’s really going on, forget this Ferguson fake ass bullshit and get to the real facts because war is coming to America soon and President Obama is the reason for it, he needs to be impeached ASAP. As far as I’m concerned Obama himself is a terrorist.

          • Tammy

            ►…”because war is coming to America soon and President Obama is the reason for it, he needs to be impeached ASAP. As far as I’m concerned Obama himself is a terrorist.”◄

            Yet again…AGGGRRREEEEEEED.

          • kimmy

            Yeah, he should have done us all a favor and just shot him. Save the tax payers some money! Get both the ‘protester’ and the officer’s name and look them up in 5 years

          • Tammy

            ►”however instead they want to act like immature children instead of adults, throwing urine at the cops, etc…”◄

            Even some immature children aren’t that bad! What those “adults” did was one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen.
            Why do they think trashing their own community is going to make the situation better? The disgraceful things they have done is not going to bring Brown back!

        • kimmy

          The spoken words of the guilty. Without the justice system, there would be no order. Only guilty people are against it.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Only the guilty claim that Officer Wilson is guilty, their justice is clear, put the cop away because if you don’t sometime he may put me away, that is their logic, one less cop on the street, one more chance they have to violate the laws. Pathetic if you ask me, however justice will be served but never fully because what these people have done is destroyed an innocent man’s career, therefore when this is all over he should sue them for this for twice the amount they are suing the Ferguson Police for, it’s only fair in my opinion as the whole reason they were pressing racism in the first place was so they could get money period.

          • kimmy

            I couldn’t agree more. The fact that this kid was shot by a white cop is only probable. If anyone had the sense to do some actual research, they would know that in America, 77% of the population is white! I imagine the police force in St Louis county is more than 92% white. It has nothing to do with racism, it has to do with need. They need police officers, therefore they hired them. You can’t hire people that don’t apply, and I bet my ass there are very few black applicants. This man needs a freeking medal. I applaud him for being brave enough to accept a post in such a troubled part of St Louis

      • Nelson Nolan

        I say just send all cops from that area to other cities, let them have their way and they will just kill each other problem solved right? See when you have gangster’s providing statements such as Dorian Johnson, you’re going to end up with falsified information leading people to believe the wrong thing which is what has happened in this case. The citizens of Ferguson DO NOT HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR ANYONE THAT STANDS UP TO THEIR VIOLENCE. Until this case I have never even heard of Ferguson, therefore the cops are not in the wrong here, if they were Ferguson would have been the topic of stories a long time ago don’t you think?

      • Carrie

        I agree with your post. All I hope for is some peace and rational thinking.

      • FREEManning

        I for one will not be satisfied at calling this a justified killing. That is preposterous. I agree with you Carie that even if Brown acted irresponsibly, his unproven crimes are less serious than killing, and the officer had other options than killing. I am not interested in revenge or punishment, i am interested in improving our standards of keeping the peace. Shooting off 10 live rounds in a residential neighborhood because of a non lethal threat — no matter if it is real or just paranoia — is like dropping a bomb on an anthill.

        • pc25

          his unproven crimes are less serious than killing, and the officer had other options than killing.

          Have you actually followed the case? Unproven crimes? Darian Johnson admitted they robbed the store, he’s on videotape, and forensics have proved the officers story. He went for the officer gun and there were shots fired in the car and there are witnesses, many of them black, who corroborate the officers story as does the autopsy. Check the latest from yesterdays WaPo where they go into detail concerning the findings .

    • Austin Smith

      the police shouldn’t have to be on trial every time someone dies though. Otherwise the cops can’t do their job. There has to be reasonable evidence to suggest the cop did something wrong, and right now, there really isn’t. The witness changed their story, there is evidence the individual just robbed a story, the injuries the officer has matches his story, and there are witnesses showing they were in a fight. If you fight a police officer, and you got shot, well…

      • Tammy

        ►”the police shouldn’t have to be on trial every time someone dies though. “◄
        Yes, they absolutely should!
        ►”Otherwise the cops can’t do their job.”◄
        Yes they can. There job is to serve and protect, not shoot to kill.
        ►”There has to be reasonable evidence to suggest the cop did something wrong, and right now, there really isn’t.”◄
        Where were yo in the beginning of all this??
        ►”If you fight a police officer, and you got shot, well…”◄

        No, it doesn’t work that way, lol!
        My goodness.

        • Robert Dutton

          Actually, I agree with the last one. If you fight with a police officer then don’t get upset when you lose, big time. I don’t fuck with sharks or lions, why? Because I’m going to lose. This kind of common sense should apply.

          • Tammy

            Yes, I do agree with it However, if someone is fighting with a cop they don’t necessarily have to shoot do they? That’s sort-of where I was hesitating. lol

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            cops are supposed to be above the bullshit…punching a cop should land you in jail not a coffin. its sad how little we value life. And FYI cops are lions or sharks, they are regular people with a uniform and badge.

          • Steve Wagner

            Bud if you’re nearly twice my size and I’m armed don’t think for a second I won’t drop a hammer on you to protect myself.

        • Auggie

          You go on trial only when you have committed a crime so police absolutely should not be on trial every time they use deadly force. Part of their job IS to use deadly force when necessary. They don’t protect and serve someone who is attacking them. If you attack and officer and try to take his gun, as has been reported by mainstream media and his accomplice, your chances of being shot are pretty good.

          • DT

            I agree with you, Auggie. Our laws give LE the authority to use deadly force. Nowhere in those statutes does it state deadly force cannot be used against an “unarmed” person. I am not so sure why people get so caught up in the word unarmed. You can beat someone to death with your own fists and feet and remain unarmed. Someone can be unarmed and be a threat to the life and liberty of another person. Many cops are shot by their own duty weapons by losing an engagement with someone who was unarmed at the outset of the physical engagement.

            There should always be at least two reviews when an officer shoots someone. Did the officer follow department procedure and did the officer follow the law. Trials would be unnecessary in many of those shootings. I am all for appropriate trials when needed and that need is not based off the court of public opinion.

            LE are sworn to uphold the law. This includes arresting gentle giants who choose to commit multiple felonies in the span of a half hour. When you assault an officer, and when you go for their duty weapon, you are escalating the situation to a deadly force situation and should expect and equal response to that threat.

          • Tammy

            ►”Part of their job IS to use deadly force when necessary. They don’t protect and serve someone who is attacking them. “◄

            Yes, obviously when necessary. However, “attacking them” is the question posed at the time. You have to go through the court process. You can’t just take the officer’s word for it otherwise they could use deadly force whenever they felt like it and not be convicted of the crime.

            ►”If you attack and officer and try to take his gun, as has been reported by mainstream media and his accomplice, your chances of being shot are pretty good.”◄

            With all due respect, obviously. Although, that’s “as reported’, which means nothing until everything has been documented, autopsy’s performed, witnesses, etc…

        • kimmy

          If you want to be safe, don’t commit crimes. When are people going to start taking some responsibility for their own welfare?

          • Tammy

            That’s obvious, but it happens! The ones who are committing the crime doesn’t care about responsibility, therefore commit crimes!

        • Steve Wagner

          Ummmmm your last point is categorically wrong. Assaulting a police officer is in fact a felony. In the act of assaulting a police officer you have made yourself a target for the use of deadly force because the officer has no way to judge your ultimate goal in assaulting him/her. Tell me Tammy, had you been in this officers place and had a choice between allowing a 6’4″ 292lb man to pummel you or shoot to protect yourself…pray tell what would you have done?

          I truly feel for the blissfully ignorant…

          • Puckett

            She’s also wrong to say that yes……every cop should be put on trial for a shooting. All shootings don’t end up in court you liberal idiot. When this investigation is over and a grand jury has looked at it they will decide if there’s enough evidence to warrant a trial or not. Normally trials aren’t mandated by how many folks raise hell about a situation. And I still want to know what’s going to happen if they officer is given a fair trial and found not guilty? We may see riots like never before because folks will still be saying it was all rigged.

          • Tammy

            ►”Ummmmm your last point is categorically wrong. Assaulting a police officer is in fact a felony.”◄

            Ummmmm I agree, it is a felony. Where did I say it wasn’t in my “last point”?

            ►”Tell me Tammy, had you been in this officers place and had a choice between allowing a 6’4″ 292lb man to pummel you or shoot to protect yourself…pray tell what would you have done?”◄

            For some reason you assume I am siding with Brown’s side, in which I am not! I was simply making a point that yes, officers should go to court in any incidences such as this. You don’t just take a cop’s word for it. The courts must follow through with due process. IF in fact it were the officer as the culprit and Brown the victim (in which I believe the reverse) then taking the cop’s word for it wouldn’t be justice now would it?

            ►”Tell me Tammy, had you been in this officers place and had a choice between allowing a 6’4″ 292lb man to pummel you or shoot to protect yourself…pray tell what would you have done?”◄

            Gathering what I said above, I think you may know the answer to this question. Of course I would have shot the SOB! Dead would possibly be another story. I mean I would have shot towards the legs to injure him, but not the chest & head to kill.

      • PJM

        So, we should just trust the police implicitly?

        • Steve Wagner

          I trust if you attempt to take my firearm you’re up to no damn good

          • PJM

            That’s not what I was saying, though. Brown trying to take his firearm is still an allegation one week later.

            The police shouldn’t be on trial everytime someone dies by their hands; so, I take it we need to trust them implicitly?

          • kimmy

            You got a better answer? Should we let the criminals decide?

          • PJM

            Who said it was one or the other? Cops can be as corrupt as criminals.

      • Gabriel Lanon

        I disagree. They NEED to be scrutinized EVERY time someone dies at their hands. Why? They have an inherently biased job. They have the authority to shoot and exercise such judgment on a whim. Their word is taken over a victim or criminal because they swore and took an oath? That seems very concrete. They are humans, who generally aren’t any less panic prone than those whom they shoot. Training can not take away natural fear to shoot or be shot. Soldiers generally are different as they are literally thrown to the wolves and forced to cope with death. Sure, many cops are former soldiers but not most. Most cops never fire their weapon in a 40 year career even in the worst of the worst neighborhoods.

        Witness accounts on both sides are equally as iffy. Law abiding witnesses may skew the truth since they live in a violent neighborhood so they see an opportunity through an emotionally shocking point to possibly retain a protector. On the other hand, many of the poor, uneducated and uninformed (regardless of why), will resort to automatically assuming a cop is out to get them out of a guilty conscious or simply something beat in to their brains. They will outright lie or skew the truth to “protect” themselves, too.

        It is a fucked up situation where only two people know the real truth and one is dead. It will not bode well and the media keep it going by giving the protesters the attention they want, inciting larger protests. Social media has done great things by allowing information to travel fast and far to catch fugitives or people whom have wandered with dimensia etc. The other very ugly side is the fact that social media also allows for the building and evolution of a story in a manner that isn’t helpful or factual. Unbiased reporting is dead. If it isn’t a controversial story, it doesn’t get air time.

        We are all human, and so many cops have suffered serious consequences from this ordeal. I am not defending either side but saying the kid MAY or MAY not have provoked the cop, but the cop MAY or MAY not have been also scared and protected himself as he THOUGHT best. Right or wrong.

        • Auggie

          I disagree. It needs to be investigated like it already is and always has been. It shouldn’t be scrutinized unless there is a reason to. This crap is getting way out of hand and officers are going to start second guessing themselves in deadly force situations. That may sound great to you unless you or your family are the ones staring down the barrel of a suspects gun one day and the officer that responds is a little trigger shy due to all of the scrutiny.

          • JJ

            Every shooting, no matter the circumstances, needs to be investigated, scrutinized, analyzed, and determined if something unlawful happened. They also need to be learned from, and policies adjusted depending on changing trends. I firmly support Officer Wilson, but the police ultimately answer to society as a whole, and as soon as that scrutiny is no longer required, corruption can set in and accountability goes out the window. Transparency is key to public trust, and that needs to be maintained at all times.
            Officers will always continue to be trained to shoot to live, as they have every right to go home alive as any other law abiding person. I don’t think any of them will be trigger shy due to scrutiny. I can only see them being trigger shy if innocents are in the line of fire.

          • Ruki

            Getting out of hand? A guy got killed in a store by a cop because he had a toy gun in his hand because it was by the TOYS, after saying it wasn’t real.

            A marine got shot because he was getting into a car with kids and seem “agitated” – no talking to him, no sign of weapons, nothing.

            Another guy got shot while on a stairwell because the officer was startled and accidentally misfired.

            Another guy got shot because the officer accidentally grabbed his gun instead of his taser? Really?

            Another guy was walking with his hands behind his head backwards towards the officers and they thought he was reaching for something and he got shot.

            Another time they thought a guy had a weapon, and it was a wallet.

            Those are just a few examples, you could find more if you looked. Those killings are getting out of hand. And they tend to get no murder/manslaughter charges.

      • PJM

        Oh, and point to the evidence where Michael Brown robbed a store, since the owners and the employee never reported theft and that “robbery” footage is only suspected to be Brown.

        • Nonna

          suspected?? You are guilty of the same you are accusing the whites. I understand that some cops get too brutal, but don’t cause people to dismiss the the true tragedy by making false assumptions. It will be hardly be taken seriously

        • Tammy

          ►”since the owners and the employee never reported theft and that “robbery” footage is only suspected to be Brown.”◄

          Yes they did because the call had came over the cops radio reporting it right after he had told Brown & the other kid to get out of the road. The footage is only “suspected” to be Brown??? You must be joking! IT IS Brown! Point to it…watch the video it’s him.

          • John Wong

            Dorian Johnson admitted that he and Brown robbed the store.

          • Tammy

            Yes, I stand corrected as I seen that after I wrote that statement.

          • PJM

            Oh, you mean the video where the person’s face is almost impossible to see. How you deduced it was Brown is what’s known as “profiling”.

            The owners and employee didn’t call the cops, another customer did.

          • kimmy

            Right, he was ‘profiled’. Jesus you are over reaching on that one. There are like 3 white people in that town, so tell us where ‘profiling’ fits.

          • PJM

            Gee, I don’t know; who’s to say that is Brown and not one of the many people in town who would look like him? That footage was released at the same time the police department released the name of the cop. And Brown wasn’t even considered a suspect of this “robbery” until after his death.

            Yeah, none of that sounds suspicious at all.

          • PJM

            Exactly. There are arguably so many in Ferguson who could fit that description.

          • Tammy

            I never stated WHO placed the call to the cops. As far as the video, ah no it’s not “profiling” when the robbery was done minutes before and the guy in the store and Mike Brown laying dead in the street have the exact same clothing, shoes and the same build, he also had the “cigarillos” at that time in the road as well. so try again to tell me I’m “profiling”. How do we KNOW he had the cigarillos?…In the road scene=friend said so!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivhqDAYI-pE

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxE8fB9yioE

          • PJM

            Yes. because that store is the only place in Ferguson that sells cigarillos. Brilliant detective work.

            Again, no robbery was reported; a customer called the cops. Hyperbole abound when talking about this issue.

          • Tammy

            Notice you spoke nothing of my “detective work” about the clothing match and his friend.
            You also just said a customer called the cops, no kidding therefore he was in the store doing exactly what the video shows!
            Look, I am not going to continue to debate with you because I think I have proven my opinion and factual points and you have stated nothing other than gibberish so I will say we can just agree to disagree and move along. Have a nice day.

          • PJM

            You’ve proven nothing.

          • Bunny

            HA. Keep kidding yourself. I really don’t care.
            I don’t like cops much, but the cop did what he had to do in THIS case. Deal with it.

          • PJM

            Yeah, what you just said makes no sense. Had you not liked cops much, you’d be skeptical, too.

            I don’t have to kid myself; you’ve proven nothing. Deal with it.

          • Bunny

            No, you make no sense and still have not proven anything nor even gave an opinion on it. If you have neither, then do not reply to me again. All you have done is say I haven’t, and proceed in wasting my time.

            I WAS skeptical…at FIRST. Now I’m not. I believe what I believe, so what. Whatever the outcome is, is! If my thoughts are wrong, so-be-it. If they are correct, you can eat your hat. I am done with this discussion so if you reply, have a nice conversation with yourself as you have nothing important or intelligent to say on the subject.

            Good day to you.

          • PJM

            Blah blah blah. You got nothing. You don’t state any reason why you lost skepticism. And then you say I make no sense. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so contradictory and sad.

            And indeed, good day.

          • Bunny

            HAHA who was right Mr. PJM?? HAHHAA

          • PJM

            Wasn’t you.

          • Bunny

            Haha, OK dude, you need a reality check. Wake the frick up. LMAO. Bye.

          • PJM

            Said the pot to the kettle.

          • PJM

            There are arguably so many in Ferguson who could fit that description.

        • Steve Wagner

          Yep…dudes all of 5’5″ and a buck 20…gets robbed by a guy who’s leg is bigger than him. He files the complaint, guys comes back after a short stint in county and does worse…
          HOW ABOUT THIS NOVEL IDEA…DON’T BE A FREAKIN’ LOSER CRIMINAL WHO TAKES ADVANTAGE OF HIS SIZE TO TAKE WHAT HE WANTS

      • msudude404

        Agreed! I guess every single person in the Army should go on trial for killing an enemy. So, guess there would be a ton of trials. :P

      • Ruki

        The police story has changed multiple times. There’s no proof that he had any eye injuries at all, it was a rumor that was started. There was a story of Josie giving his side of the story, that was also debunked as being untrue. They took the body away in a police SUV instead of a coroner? His side of the story didn’t come out until after the autopsy, which showed that he was shot on top of the head, being over 6ft. If he was “charging” as some people suggest, it wouldn’t make sense why he had shots on the inner part of his arms. There’s also evidence of a longer video showing he PAID for the cigars, not robbed them. Also, the owner never filed a report of a theft (not robbery).

        Also, the no filing of the incident report? How is that one explained logically?

      • Alesy Ortiz

        doctors are scrutinized every time someone dies at their hands. its called accountability. you take someone’s life you owe an explanation proving there was no other course of action. or wouldn’t you want your death accounted for if it was the result of someone else’s actions?

        • Austin Smith

          When someone’s life is taken police fill out a report. That report is explained and scrutinized because police are accountable for deaths. However, like doctors, police aren’t put on trial for murder each time someone dies.

          No one says the police shouldn’t fill out a report. But they don’t need to go on trial each time they shoot a criminal. If the report doesn’t make sense, if criminal wrongdoing is suspected, if there is enough reasonable suspicion and doubt, then sure give them a trial. But there seems to be more than enough evidence regarding Michael browns death to not warrant a murder trial. Or even punishment.

          A criminal was killed in a confrontation with police moments after a robbery. Good riddance.

      • Carrie

        Once again, all I ever hear is what the media is feeding me. I hear a thousand accounts. Hopefully the court will hear the most correct version and be given evidence that will help them find the truth and lay justice. If brown was responsible then it his own loss and the officer should not be punished but if the officer was incorrect, he has to pay. That is justice.

        However, I personally do not try to provoke cops in any way. When I get stopped, I do exactly as I am told and stay still, and let him do his job, lol.

    • xstratusx

      If he has criminal record it shows history of aggression and paranoia of getting caught by police which explains why he assaulted a cop.

      • PJM

        For your sake, I hope your record is squeaky clean.

        • Final_Word

          But we all know it won’t be. His record wasn’t even clean the very day he was shot. He robbed a store and apparently assaulted an officer.

          • PJM

            Allegedly robbed a store. His record not being clean is speculation.

      • from_Chicago

        Record or not. The paranoia was still the because Brown THOUGHT the officer knew he had committed the armed robbery, even though he didn’t! Thus became the aggressor!

        • macgeneral

          Then why didn’t he run immediately? For that matter why didn’t he simply clear the street when the patrol vehicle rolled up? That would have been a more appropriate behavior for a thief “paranoid” and afraid of being caught. You’d have to make a case for immense arrogance on the part of these two boys to remain in the middle of the street, walking along, holding a box of stolen cigarillos, and talking back to a cop … that simply doesn’t fit with paranoid.

        • Ruki

          Not an armed robbery, it’s theft.

          And why being told about get out of the street, lead him to any other thoughts? You have NO idea what was in his Browns head. You’re stretching here.

      • macgeneral

        If he has a record that INCLUDES aggression and paranoia then it shows that. If he has a record of stealing lighter fluid and rolling machines it shows something else. You make presumptions. But it will change the narrative as we find out more about his background. It will not radically change the evidence but it will be part of the defense’s case.

    • John Wong

      Brown was shot because he had already physically attacked Wilson in his patrol car and attempted the get the officer’s gun. Brown then started to flee but when officer Wilson yelled for him to ‘freeze’ he turned around, taunted Wilson, and then charged at Wilson. Wilson had no choice but to start shooting. The first four shots did not even slow down the 6’4″ 292 lb Brown. He just kept coming like he was crazy or high on something. The final two shots, headshots, finally stopped Brown. Over a dozen witnesses collaborated Officer Wilson’s side of the confrontation. Then there is how Johnson, Brown’s accomplice in the convenience store robbery, described the confrontation which is what started the accusations of racism. However, Johnson’s testimony began to spring leaks when he changed his story several times plus it was discovered that he had already been convicted of lying to the police in an earlier crime.

      • PJM

        Over a dozen witnesses… Cite, or not true.

        Everything you’re describing are allegations.

        • Auggie

          The 12 witness has been reported by several media sources if you actually choose to read it. They back the officer’s account of what happened. People who say that the officer shot Brown while he just walked down the street is an allegation also. It goes both ways, not just the way of your opinion.

          • macgeneral

            Yes it DOES go both ways and that is why we await the outcome of our justice system.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Or the outcome of the protestor’s justice system as they believe that what they believe is justice regardless of facts or evidence, for anyone that actually believes that way I feel that they should be treated the same way they believe when it comes to justice no questions asked. True justice will come out because the video that shows the clear evidence that Officer Wilson acted in self-defense is out and is enough in itself to prove innocence for the Officer.

        • Michael F

          Guess what? The witnesses on TV both said, they didnt have a clear sight of what happened either, yet, what was claimed from that perspective is bible…..I’ll never understand that

        • SaggyTitsRepublicanCow

          I hath down voted your comment fair lass, have a fantastic day!

        • Final_Word

          Wow, I guess you only read one side of the story.

      • Gmoney fat stacks

        store robbery huh? you mean the same robbery that the store clerk NEVER called in. Which is really irrelevant because the cop that shop him, had no knowledge of the call that came in, from a customer.

        • Step

          Some convenient stores actually have a policy where they are to call their supervisor instead of calling the police, believe it or not.

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            i believe you but i wont assume that considering that the call was never made at all.

          • JJ

            The call to the police was made by a customer in the store. I’m sure the customer made it known they were calling the police, so why would the store clerk make a second call when he knew the police were already on their way?
            Some people have also repeated a story going around that Michael Brown was at the register paying for the cigars; said story was really stretching to come to their conclusions. Never mind that Dorian Johnson had already admitted they stole the cigars. The store robbery is certainly relevant, as it alludes to Michael Brown’s frame of mind when approached by the police. Michael Brown knew he had just robbed a store, whether the officer knew it or not. In Brown’s mind, he was about to go to jail. One can assume he did not want to go to jail, again apparently, as an adult this time, so he would try to get away. Perhaps he wanted to knock an officer senseless then run away, and things didn’t go as planned?

          • Ruki

            They’re not “spreading a story” there’s actually a longer version of the surveillance tape, the PD just chose to show only part of it to criminalize him.

            And what you’re saying doesn’t even make sense. If he wanted to knock an officer senseless to get away, why would he charge back towards him to begin with? It’s contradicting.

          • JJ

            Thank you for pointing out something that doesn’t make sense! And it’s true, why did he charge back towards the officer? No one knows but Michael Brown.
            I saw the entire video you are referring to, from when Brown and Johnson entered the store all the way till he shoved the store clerk aside as he walked out with the entire box of cigars. Even the part where Brown grabs a second box to hand to Johnson. Johnson at least put that box back on the counter. Brown grabs an entire box, dropping some on the floor. How did the store clerk know how many were in there to correctly ring them up? It didn’t look like Brown had any money in his hands when he stood in front of the counter. He didn’t produce a wallet, and unless he had exactly the amount needed, he must have told the clerk to keep the change, right? That’s pretty much conjecture, but what isn’t is the fact Johnson has already stated they stole the cigars. Brown criminalized himself. His family said the police released that video of Brown purely for character assassination, which is defined as “the malicious and unjustified harming of a person’s good reputation.” If it’s true Brown had a juvenile record, coupled with the surveillance video of him committing a strong arm robbery, then Brown had no good reputation, and that is no ones fault but his own. Just like Trayvon Martin, the media is trying to spin the family story of a sweet innocent “child” that would never do anything wrong. If Brown has a juvenile record that shows serious crimes, there is no way his family could not have known. So much for the “gentle giant” narrative.

          • Ruki

            So even though it doesn’t make sense, it still must have happened? And there are multiple witnesses saying he didn’t charge toward him. The accounts of charging didn’t start appearing until AFTER the autopsy showing he was shot on top of the head, that doesn’t magically seem convenient? The original witness stories have stayed the same and were reported from the beginning.

            And again, it’s theft not strong arm robbery.

            And they’re objecting to the video because again, just has to be pure coincidence that the day they decide to release the name of the police officer is the SAME day that they release the video.

            They were saying the video was being asked for, but no one even knew it existed so who was “they” that were looking for a video? And they even said that the officer didn’t know about the theft, so why is it relevant to begin with?

            Why is it 2 weeks later it occurs he “may” have a juvenile record? Are they pulling the officers records of everything also to show his character? Are they not releasing it because there is no record?

            And how come the officer never filed an incident report on the shooting either?

          • Nelson Nolan

            LMAO once again stupidity at it’s finest…. The accounts of charging didn’t appear until AFTER the autopsy… really better check your facts before opening your mouth, I don’t believe that the autopsy was done the moment Michael Brown was dead while he was laying in the street, yet this video clearly shows that Michael Brown was running at the officer and this video was taken only minutes after the shooting happened, this video clearly shows Michael Brown laying in the street, so to say that accounts of charging didn’t start appearing until AFTER the autopsy is just plain stupid.

            http://fox2now.com/2014/08/19/new-video-evidence-may-offer-a-different-account-of-mike-browns-death/

            A written Transcript of what is said in the video that clearly states that Michael Brown was in Officer Wilson’s vehicle and that he was running at Officer Wilson when Officer Wilson shot him:

            #1 How’d he get from there to there?

            #2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

            {crosstalk}

            #2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the… police got out and ran after him

            {crosstalk}

            #2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus – the police had his gun drawn already on him –

            #1. Oh, the police got his gun

            #2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

            {crosstalk}

            #2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

            #1 The Police?

            #2 The Police shot him

            #1 Police?

            #2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

            https://www.facebook.com/officerdarrenwilsonferguson

          • Ruki

            Double backed? Did he mean charged or did he mean he turned around?

          • Nelson Nolan

            He meant exactly what was described, Michael Brown attacked Officer Wilson in his vehicle, then started to walk off, Officer Wilson following protocol got out of vehicle pointed his gun and told Michael to Freeze Michael then turned around and ran at Officer Wilson Double Backed means he turned around and went back towards where he came from which was obviously Officer Wilson’s Patrol Vehicle.

          • Ruki

            No. He said double backed, not ran towards him. Not charged. Not bum rushed. If he got grazed in the arm, and turned around to surrender, that would be considered double backed.

            There’s nothing in that conversation that says Brown attacked the officer or that the officer told him to freeze.

          • Miguel

            So AGAIN…How did the officers eye socket get broke?

          • Ruki

            You mean the one that they’re turning around and saying that whole story was false to begin with?

            Again, the man is shown walking around calmly after the incident. Broken eye socket would probably have been painful, correct? The fact that he drove off too? There’s no problems being able to see well enough to drive off? No swollen eye shut or unable to see clearly that would have prevented that?

            Not a single image of his injuries has shown up. The original website that started this idea, had an xray up which turns out to be nothing more than a stock photo.

            Also, this again took over a week to come out? Why? People were upset if he genuinely had something this serious why not state it in the beginning, which would have helped his case of self defense?

            And how hard do you have to hit someone to break their eye socket? It would make sense that there would have to be some type of mark on his hand – yet nothing in the autopsy report that showed it.

          • DT

            Assault, retreat, return is pretty much MB’s intimidation M.O. It is precisely what he did to the store clerk.

            Pre-emptive tidbit, per the MO statutes,

            Assault in the third degree.
            565.070. 1. A person commits the crime of assault in the third degree if:

            (3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of
            immediate physical injury; or

            (5) The person knowingly causes physical contact with another person
            knowing the other person will regard the contact as offensive or provocative;
            or

          • Christopher

            Robbery

            The taking of money or goods in the possession of another, from his or her person or immediate presence, by force or intimidation.

            Robbery is a crime of theft and can be classified as Larceny by force or by threat of force. The elements of the crime of robbery include the use of force or intimidation and all the elements of the crime of larceny.
            Maybe you could spend 3 seconds looking up the elements of the crimes you are talking about before you tell someone else that they are wrong even if the actual crime is totally irrelevant to this situation.

          • Mike McMahon X

            If you saw the entire video, dumbass, you would have seen that Johnson placed the box of cigars back behind the counter, and Michael Brown walked out with only the four or five cigars that fell on the floor. This is why the racist Ferguson police department did not charge him with a crime, as they certainly would to rile up people like you. But, of course, the white media can demonize him further by claiming it was the whole box, and that the box was worth $50. Oh, that’s a great reason to get shot like a dog and left in the street for five hours!

          • JJ

            Wow, did I resort to any name calling of anybody here? Nope, then why did you? And if you look down 5 and 6 sentences down on my post, you’d see I wrote “Johnson at least put that box back on the counter”. The one Brown had wasn’t even a $50.00 pack, it was a stand up box that probably cost no more than $30.00. And what police department would charge a dead man with a crime? And the white media demonizing him? All I see is NBC, CBS, and CNN showing family interviews, White House officials attending Brown’s funeral, Jesse Jackson getting airtime, the Governor of Missouri promising a “vigorous” prosecution, Eric Holder falling over himself to show up, and the Captain of the state police posing and flashing gang signs. What I don’t see is any media support of Wilson. Just lots of “Wilson is a murderer” and “white cop shoots unarmed black teen.” Race only gets displayed when it’s white shooting black. Kind of like this: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/11/27/1244411/jordan-russell-davis/
            But if it’s a black person shooting a white person, it’s shown like this:
            http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/cmpd-2-police-officer-shot-northeast-charlotte/ng4Z4/
            See the difference? Not so much white media bias, is there? And nobody said Brown was shot over cigars. The officer didn’t know about the robbery before hand. His response was based on Brown’s actions AFTER they came in contact. The robbery video was relevant because it alludes to Brown’s state of mind when he saw he was being stopped by police. That was mentioned not just by me but several other posters. As far as him laying on the street for 5 hours, I have no idea on that. To me that doesn’t seem right either. Either way, try to be civil, and no more name calling, okay?

          • Stop the ignorance…

            Hey dumbshit, if you saw the entire video you would see Michael brown SHOVE and INTIMIDATE the store clerk….yeah, he did that because he paid for something. I don’t know about you, but I’ve never had a store clerk come and block my exit because I paid for something. That’s 3 crimes within a matter of 5 minutes

          • Bunny

            It wasn’t about the cigars at all anyway.

          • thestingisthetruth

            The police department isn’t criminalizing Brown. Brown criminalized Brown by robbing a store, assaulting the clerk and then attacking a police officer.

          • disqus_yS0R855LBc

            regardless of what happened…and only a few people really know the truth…it does not justify looting innocent businesses, burning innocent businesses, or tearing up the neighborhood…..i will never understand a mentality of “i don’t like that a black kid was killed by a white man, so let’s have a riot, and tear this town apart!” will someone please explain that to me? because what good does that do! You are just making yourselves look REALLY bad and stupid!

          • Nelson Nolan

            LMAO wow, if the call was never made at all, then why does it say in the official police reports for Ferguson Missouri Police that at 11:51 AM a report of theft from the convenient store came in? I have a copy of the official police reports but it won’t let me upload it here, you can google search for the Ferguson Police Reports For August 9th, 2014 and find and download it. This is the problem with people now days, you all listen to hearsay instead of evidence. Based on the fact that one of the people trying to say that police killed Michael Brown for no reason, posted a video which captured 2 other people talking minutes after Michael Brown was dead in which 1 tells the other that Michael Brown was in the officer’s vehicle and that he had been charging Officer Wilson just like the Officer stated. Society twists things to what they want to hear, however facts show what the reality of it is, Officer Wilson is innocent and we just see who the real racists are because they all stereotyped him as a racist murderer and stereotyping is practically the same thing as being a racist. See video of witness stating the truth:

            http://fox2now.com/2014/08/19/new-video-evidence-may-offer-a-different-account-of-mike-browns-death/

            Also here is the transcript of the video from 6:30 – 7:20 of the video

            A written Transcript of what is said in the video that clearly states that Michael Brown was in Officer Wilson’s vehicle and that he was running at Officer Wilson when Officer Wilson shot him:

            #1 How’d he get from there to there?

            #2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

            {crosstalk}

            #2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the… police got out and ran after him

            {crosstalk}

            #2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus – the police had his gun drawn already on him –

            #1. Oh, the police got his gun

            #2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

            {crosstalk}

            #2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

            #1 The Police?

            #2 The Police shot him

            #1 Police?

            #2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

            If you support Officer Darren Wilson, visit my page
            https://www.facebook.com/officerdarrenwilsonferguson

        • Kathy J Casey

          again, y’all act like there’s all kinda time to write a perfect scenario. the thug life is being scrutinized here because initially we were told he was a gentle kid getting ready to go to college and showed OLD pics of a young teen. mistrust on both sides…..

        • John Wong

          It seems someone did report the robbery as the police did know about the theft of the cigars and Dorian Johnson later confessed as being part of the robbery. If the store clerk did not report the robbery it was because he was afraid of the protestors. As it was his store was destroyed by looters.

        • MARTI

          Does it really matter who reports a crime? Was the theft of the cigars and the intimidation of the shop owner any less of a crime because the shop owner did not call it in? I think not! In fact, that makes looting and burning that store to the ground all the more horrible, he is the original victim in the whole scenario.

        • thestingisthetruth

          So because the store didn’t call in the robbery, the video is a fake… right?

      • macgeneral

        First of all it’s “corroborated” not collaborated. And second, you speak as though you were there – which I’m guessing you were not. These definitive statements you make may, ultimately, be determined as fact. But in this country, in our system they have not been established as fact yet. We don’t KNOW why Brown was shot. But hopefully we will. At very least we’ll know more than conjecture, hearsay, and media reports.

        • Joshua Jansen

          Hearsay is slightly more reliable when… careful… corroborated by more than a dozen witnesses.

          • Ben Stevens

            Hearsay is just testifying to what another person said. It is never reliable. However, witnesses testifying to the same thing but slightly different is a stronger indication of the truth considering that each person will recount an experience in a different way because they all were seeing it from different perspectives. An indication that a manufacture lie is being told is when the police are all telling the exact same story as if they were…told to? Fuck the police.

        • Ben Stevens

          Its not our system. It is a system that was brought here in a genocidal rampage that almost wiped out an entire race. It is built to allow for this type of insanity. It is supported by taxes and blind allegiance to a fictitious god aka government. I stand in solidarity with Mike Brown and the community of Ferguson but you get what you pay for.

          • macgeneral

            Points well taken Ben. Of course everything about humanity qualifies as a genocidal rampage if the view is broadened enough. And we will be wiped out. It’s just a matter of when:-)

          • kimmy

            Really? If you don’t like it don’t let the door, AKA border hit you in the ass. Yes, you do get what you pay for. You might want to look at what Ferguson draws in on taxes annually, rhen you might want to see where that little money comes from. So, your statement could not be more accurate. As a general rule, it’s the tax dollars that separates the towns with ‘tracks’. IE, my neighborhood is nicer because everyone I know has a job and owns their home. As a result, we have $ to put back into the city.

          • Ben Stevens

            Lol oh my glob

          • kimmy

            Your glob, my God, either way facts are facts

      • Step

        No choice but to start shooting? Charging at him doesn’t even give reason to shoot him. Perhaps these police officers need to stop eating those donuts and keep up with the physical training they took while getting into the police force. Also if they’re going to go after a dangerous robber, perhaps they should be going in with some backup.

        • Gmoney fat stacks

          taser and pepper spray works just fine…..which they are actually trained to use. they are trained not to panic or over react. thats whats suppose to separate them from us….

          • Kathy J Casey

            SERIOUSLY??? Put the semi auto weapon down or you will be tazed!???

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            Wth are you talking about lady? Nobody in this story had a semi automatic weapon. When did any report say brown has a weapon at all?

          • Stop the ignorance…

            I KNOW you have seen an episode of cops where a man can withstand the power of a tazer. Also, pepper spray is KNOWN to be immune on people.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0mVn0HH6U

          • kimmy

            You’re an idiot!

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            Are you serious, if you don’t have a rebuttal, and are lost for words. I recommend just shutting the fuck up…. Stop embarrassing yourself. You may night like my opinion, but at least I have one

          • kimmy

            And Gmoney fat stacks tells me everything I need to know

        • Steve Wagner

          Hahaha… you’re a true original with the doughnut jokes. First off IF in fact Wilson was assaulted by Brown PRIOR to Brown charging him, Brown had already set a precedent. I spent 10 years as an officer, I am 6’2″ 200 lb and I can assure you of 2 things: 1) “Back up” is not always available and even when it is do you expect the officer to say “hey hey hold on just a second pal, wait until the other officers get here will ya”. 2) A human that size is capable of doing substantial physical harm to a guy my size. Damn straight he is risking being shot!

        • macgeneral

          Indeed. What will be interesting to learn is whether there is a dispatch call to the patrol car, a call of any sort to the police department, and so forth. There are standard operating procedures on these sort of things.

        • Kathy J Casey

          uh, yeah it does….black, white or green, shit goes down. I’m white but my expectation would be to step deep into the pile if I was charging at a cop whose cheek I just smashed. Bad choices set this all in motion. ANNND were taking a couple of minutes, not time to wait for back up when you feel threatened whether justified fear or not.

          • mirador1014

            Per the Ferguson Police Department yesterday, the cop suffered NO smashed cheek, NO fracture, NO significant injury of any kind.

          • Nelson Nolan

            Says the druggie high on PCP. No one said the cops cheek wasn’t smashed, quit digging shit out of the dumpster loser, this is the second time I’ve seen you say this dumb shit, however there is not a single piece of factual evidence to prove this.

          • DT

            Link, please. I have never seen such a statement on that.

          • Nelson Nolan

            And where do you get this bogus information, wow dude just shut up and stop spreading fairy tail rumors, it’s people like you that got this whole thing twisted to be about race in the first place.

        • JJ

          Hmm, the officer suffers a fracture to his eye socket after being struck while still in his vehicle (how hard of a hit does it take to do that I wonder?), said assaulter runs away then doubles back towards officer while officer has his gun drawn and yelling commands. The strongest officers can have trouble dealing with people who are high on drugs, whose mental state and pain tolerances are altered. There will always be someone stronger than you. The police never know what to expect. And the officer had already stated his interaction with Brown and Johnson began because the two were walking down the middle of the street. Officer Wilson had no reason to assume the encounter would turn violent. Brown and Johnson, knowing they just robbed a store, knew that they were in trouble. Your comment about Wilson getting backup before going after a dangerous robber isn’t relevant, as he did not know they had just robbed a store. To Gmoney fat stacks, tasers work fine, yes, but also take a moment to transition to from a firearm, and you also get one shot to connect those two little probes for it to be effective. Pepper spray also takes a moment before a normal person gets the full affect, then you also have that small percentage of the population that has no adverse reaction to pepper spray. Both of these instances require time that Wilson did not have before Brown could reach him while running. Personally, if I were in Wilson’s shoes, I wouldn’t trust my life in that situation to a taser or pepper spray. They both have their uses, but there are also times where both are inappropriate to use if you wanted to go home after your shift is over.

          • mirador1014

            You apparently don’t realize that the cops have publicly reported the officer suffered NO “fractured eye socket” nor fractured anything else. He’s fine. That may not make a difference to you, but it’s an interesting development. Most importantly, if you’re going to post on public forums, it’s best to keep the news current. The retraction by the cops of the fractured eye socket story was released many hours ago.

          • JJ

            Very well, I did not know it was retracted, I stand corrected. But the fact he was struck in the face was not retracted. So, in a way, you are right in that it doesn’t make much difference, as an assault, or battery, depending on how it’s worded in missouri, still occurred. If that’s the only point you take issue with, then I guess I’m doing pretty well.

          • Nelson Nolan

            LMAO again you are apparently gullible, who released that? Elvis? Oh wait no your acid or crystal meth released that right? PCP? I have not seen any official report, I have not seen any videos, or anything at all that shows the police saying that Officer Wilson isn’t hurt, that he don’t have an Orbital Eye Fracture, and either way the video taken minutes after Officer Wilson shot Michael Brown clearly proves the point that Officer Wilson’s statement was legit you don’t, your stereotype buddies don’t, neither do any other stereotype protesters supposedly fighting against “Racism” yet they are “Stereotyping” which is equal to Racism, it just shows the stupidity and then explains why these people can’t accept even with factual evidence that Officer Wilson defended himself.

            http://fox2now.com/2014/08/19/new-video-evidence-may-offer-a-different-account-of-mike-browns-death/

            A written Transcript of what is said in the video that clearly states that Michael Brown was in Officer Wilson’s vehicle and that he was running at Officer Wilson when Officer Wilson shot him:

            #1 How’d he get from there to there?

            #2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

            {crosstalk}

            #2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the… police got out and ran after him

            {crosstalk}

            #2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus – the police had his gun drawn already on him –

            #1. Oh, the police got his gun

            #2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

            {crosstalk}

            #2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

            #1 The Police?

            #2 The Police shot him

            #1 Police?

            #2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

        • John Wong

          No reason to shoot him. If someone who was 6’4″ and outweighed me by 100 lbs came at me and I had a gun, you’re damn right I would defend myself which is what Officer Wilson did. Since Brown had already injured Wilson, as a policeman he had every right to shoot Brown. Of course if you were in Wilson’s shoes you’d just let Brown beat you to death.

        • kimmy

          Lol, bench warmer

      • Tammie Marshall

        Were the fuck u there??

        • Aussie

          “Were the fuck u there??”

        • John Wong

          There are two versions to this story. Officer Wilson’s and Dorian Johnson’s. Wilson has a clean record and an accommodation awarded last year. What does Johnson have? A criminal record and a history of lying to the police(2009). Also he has since altered his version of Brown’s death from his original version(hands up don’t shoot). No I don’t have to be there. I saw the video of the convenience store robbery with Brown and Johnson in it and how Brown manhandled the store owner/clerk, a man half his size. I also think it is a joke when the media describes Brown as “unarmed”. When you are 6’4″ and 292 lbs you don’t need a gun in most cases to overcome an opponent. Unfortunately for Brown the much smaller Wilson did have a gun. Too bad the store clerk didn’t have a gun. He would have been justified in shooting Brown. I would believe Officer Wilson over a proven liar like Dorian Johnson with what went down in the street.

      • datbeezy

        what, you were there or something?

      • gerry

        I’m sure glad you were on the scene to gather all these facts. Most of all the Over a dozen witnesses who collaborated Officer Wilson’s side of the confrontation. You should notify the news media because you are the only one that knows of these witnesses.

        • John Wong

          Not me. It was a reporter from the St Louis Dispatch who first stated that there were over a dozen witnesses. This reporter claims the info about the witnesses came from the police.

      • Ben Stevens

        This is just a fabrication developed by fox news. Had no choice but to shoot? Hm. What is that other thing that police carry and misuse all the time? Oh yeah thats right. A tazer. Well there goes yet another racist response. Please do everyone a favor and think for yourself instead of being a fox news puppet. If you had the ability to think my guess is that you wouldn’t say this fabricated shit. What’s funny is just how bad the “supporters” of the police are really trying all they can to point out that Mike Brown had made mistakes before therefore he deserved to die. Its people like you who were clamoring at Hitler’s speeches.

      • Carrie

        Let the courts decide.

      • Gmoney fat stacks

        So what about the guy they shot a couple days later….they shot him 3 more times after he was already down.

        • John Wong

          Are you talking about the guy who did Suicide By Cop? The one who was waving a knife around. I don’t know much about that incident and the video was shot too far away to get any audio.

    • Gabriel Lanon

      I see you’re black. Then how could you say our laws work? Texas has released the most wrongfully incarcerated death row inmates than any other state in the past few years. Most black I believe, who were most likely incarcerated because “our laws work.” (Just a random fact). I agree that being a criminal doesn’t automatically make him deserving of his fate BUT his record does have value as it would help build a character account. Has the person shown a violent history or a history of behavior that would make it plausible for him to provoke the cop? Get what I am saying? You sound like you are someone who is foolishly hopeful. (Not meant as an insult). For the laws to work or at least fair treatment to grow and resonate, the individuals need to start with themselves. As crazy as it sounds, the movie “Idiocracy” which is a satirical take on human social evolution, is the best example of what is going on these days. Brown MAY have been a victim of murder. He also MAY have been able to avoid being shot. The world isn’t perfect and sadly I do not share your optimism. I do not see any future where any of it gets better for the socially uneducated.

      • Carrie

        Once again, we should let the courts decide.

        Also the argument you have presented could also be used against one who has been raped but had a history of being promiscuous. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is what the courts decide. That is what living in a society means. Also, I rather the American court system then many others in the world.

    • Auggie

      I agree with you 100%. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, citizens and police officers.

    • nigga hate

      all niggers should die, specially gang banging wannabes. theres a reason you deserve to be executed on sight…….your all gods mistakes

      • SaggyTitsRepublicanCow

        I like that you up voted your own comment.

      • Gmoney fat stacks

        well at least we down shoot up innocent children in school and movie theaters…fucking animals….We arent the only ones that kill our own…..as a matter of fact you guys are responsible for all massacres on american soil..(yea and we really know who’s responsible for 9/11)…remember waco and oklahoma city bombings……white on white crime at its finest…….Now

        • msudude404

          English please?
          Plus, all of the shooters are mentally unstable. Literally. Police and officials said they all needed to get help. The only one guy that was extremely odd was the guy that did the movie theatre shooting. But, yet again people snap.

          So your comment is invalid sir!

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            There you go. I changed the word don’t and added a comma. Is that better? Mentally unstable based on what? News reports? Your comments are exactly what part of the problem is. Black people kill and the narrative is, we are animals and gang members. White people kill innocent children, and the narrative is “They were unstable” or “they needed help” complete and utter bullshit. But Im ok with agreeing to disagree. and sorry about the writing my phone has a bad delay, and to be honest i clearly didnt proofread APOLOGIES my friend

          • msudude404

            Do you have a iPhone by chance?

            OT. News Reports are bogus 75% of the time. The only real reports were back in the day, Before 2010.

            The guys who did the shootings of Sandy Hook, the shooting at Arizona were mentally unstable.

            The guy who did the Movie Theatre shooting had Psychological issues from various reasons.

            OK City bombings, just an average terrorist from some terrorist group.

          • macgeneral

            He was talking about race not cause.

        • Final_Word

          Let me guess. You are a sixth grade drop out.

          • Gmoney fat stacks

            yes if that makes you feel better. I assume that was your idea of being clever?

        • Kathy J Casey

          last comment… you’re right and REASONABLE people know it for themselves. t
          The whole gig is abt marginalizing the poor AND the middle class by the 1%. They started with native americans. Then it moved on to black folk. White folk clueless they’ll be coming for them too and that has begun… I have a decades old history for standing up for right. At 20yrs old, got spit on by a klansmen for saying, “You dont speak for all of us asshole.” so its not that I dont get it but reasonable ppl need to stand up like that now. Every color police your own and set a standard to bring to the peace table. And every single cop needs a small mounted unidirectional hd cam on the shoulder with sound. Problem solved and maybe we work together for HUMAN rights.

          • kimmy

            Let me guess, ACLU advocate? What people (who count) really want is equal treatment. That means, if I have to earn a living in this country, so does everyone else regardless of race or religion. Fair is fair, what’s right for me is right for everyone. Work, respect your superiors and live right!

      • Trey

        you’re, not your

    • 12Toastie12

      You had a pretty good post Carrie. Tho if his crimes include “2nd degree murder” or “manslaughter” then I would feel a lot less sympathetic for him.

      You’re right tho, let it play out in court, very wise statement. And you’re pretty cute too ;)

      • Carrie

        We are all human. Even I would have to force myself to be objective if I were the jury. However the evidence should speak and hopefully we find out the truth.

        Also thank you for the compliment.

    • Miles Jones

      im black and i agree

    • magormissabib

      Yes. if he was a violent criminal and was coming at the cop like he did the guy in the store the cop had every right to unload on him. thats the law. what , because he was black he should be above the law.

    • Trey

      Our justice system is actually quite messed up. Yes, we should let the courts decide, but to say our laws work is just plain ignorance

      • Carrie

        In comparison to other countries, I will take my chances with the American courts.

    • msudude404

      I find it funny that everyone started rioting about it. But, I hope they know it will take about 4-8 months to actually get a full court case started…. they have to find evidence and TRUST WORTHY witness’s. Not silly people who claim they saw everything.

      • Carrie

        I was especially angry at the looting.

        • msudude404

          me too

    • Final_Word

      You are too ignorant to “get it”. Go back to your hole sheeple.

    • Guest

      “So because he was a criminal, he deserved to be shot? It doesn’t matter. I think you and this site and this whole country need to let the court system do its job. If brown provoked the officer, let the courts decide. If the officer was incorrect and killed him, let the courts decide. All this site seemed to do was fan the flames even more. Our laws work, let it do its job” – It’s important to accurately describe the “victim” so we can correctly assess whether the person who was shot frequently putting himself in a position to be shot by someone, anyone. He wasn’t this helpless victim, as he is being portrayed, he was a violent criminal who often put himself in harm’s way.

    • Robert Schaeffer

      “So because he was a criminal, he deserved to be shot? It doesn’t matter. I think you and this site and this whole country need to let the court system do its job. If brown provoked the officer, let the courts decide. If the officer was incorrect and killed him, let the courts decide. All this site seemed to do was fan the flames even more. Our laws work, let it do its job” – It’s important to accurately describe the “victim” so we can correctly assess whether the person who was shot frequently put himself in a position to be shot by someone, anyone. He wasn’t this helpless victim, as he is being portrayed, he was a violent criminal who often put himself in harm’s way. Why does race always seem to take away common sense in these cases?

      • Carrie

        The courts will decide that. There is nothing else to do but wait on the courts and they will decide who was the victim and who wasn’t. I wasn’t there and hopefully neither were you. If you weren’t, there is nothing to say except let the courts decide.
        We both are Americans, we shouldn’t let the media divide us.

    • Nolan Hughes

      I guess you forgot that in the courts it will go against the credibility of the victim

    • thestingisthetruth

      Of course not. If he was actively assaulting an officer and disregarding orders to stop causing him to fear for his life or those of the public, then shooting him was a viable and legal option to stop him. Does that qualify as “deserving?” Under the law it does. I would prefer that a taser be used. Or a dog, but the politically correct crowd has tied the police’s hands regarding those. If they had used a taser and he died, there would be even more of a hellstorm. As for the rest, I agree entirely. However, the video of him robbing the store and assaulting the clerk is certainly relevant.

    • Marcy Brown

      It does matter, especially when people are pretending that Michael Brown was a passive intellectual on his way to Harvard (when in fact, he was a summer school graduate on his way to HVAC school and showed a propensity for violence as we saw in the surveillance video).

    • IHateDummies

      He didn’t deserve to be shot because he “provoked” a police officer; he deserved to be shot because he viciously attacked a police officer and demonstrated his intent to kill him with his own weapon.

    • Tammy

      I agree with you on “let the courts decide.” However “our laws work” is a joke.

      • kimmy

        If you don’t like how our laws work, why don’t you do something to try and fix them? People always criticize our lwas and law enforcement, but do nothing or offer nothing to help fix it. Don’t be one of those who always disagrees with a process, but offers no solution.

        • Tammy

          Don’t assume I haven’t or don’t!

          • kimmy

            Our laws were put in place for a reason. They’re not always perfect, but they are necessary. This BS is nothing but a cry to unarm our police force, and God save us all if that happens. It is clear that Ferguson MO is a small community of criminals, so of course they would like to see a naked force. Isn’t that how they like it, an unfair fight? Even if (which is highly unlikely) this cop was somewhat out of line, this man broke a law, and when you break laws, there is punishment……nomatter what color you are

          • Tammy

            Agreed!
            It’s some of the “punishments” that are given to the guilty that are what need changing. This is what I speak of as well as some laws need more detail because there always seems to be a loophole that gets criminals off, or a lesser sentence.

          • kimmy

            I’m for capitol punishment, but that’s my own belief. I won’t try to push it on others, to each their own. Personally I feel like our focus should be on other things right now. We are spending way too much money on medicaid and welfare. Many people may think that has nothing to do with this topic, but I strongly believe the two are entangled. This is not limited to any one race, it just so happens Ferguson is 98% black. In any community that is dependant on government assistance, there is bound to be lawlessness. Idle hands, evil doings. Until we all stand up for those who have been born into this system, and force them to be responsible, this will never change.

          • Tammy

            Capitol Punishment = agreed.

    • JoeThePimpernel

      Nobody said he deserved to be shot merely because he had criminal record involving murder.

      However, someone involved in one murder has an astronomically higher probability of being involved in another murder compared to the general public.

      There appears to be a growing probability that Saint Charging Bull indeed presented a threat to the officer’s life.

      I take it you believe that police officers have no right to defend themselves when attacked?

    • Paulinthedesert

      He deserved to be shot because he robbed a store and resisted arrest you IGNORANT iNBred!

    • Thomas Alascio
    • blehblehbleh

      I’d like to take a minute to give thanks for the great contributions
      that the Black community has made to our society. First off is their
      peaceful and generous nature that make them ideal neighbors, lending
      testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills
      unrivaled by any other culture we know. I might add also their
      commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an
      example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. And less we
      forget about the real estate values that are fueled by the mix of
      African Americans into an area due to their caring, kind, and respectful
      nature of these communities. This is an example of all they have
      achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a
      self-reliant can-do nature. Without their industrious and creative
      drive, we would be much poorer as a nation.

  • JoseAmerica

    You know what might clear some of this up? The police report.

    I wonder where that is…

  • BigPat Yum Yum

    For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government’s mammoth

    broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2,2012 that

    came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January of 2012.

    The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV

    programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light

    for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts. So is you do know know about the Smith-Mundt

    Modernization Act in 2012 I suggest THIS IS WHERE YOU START IF YOU WANT ANY CHANGE…

  • Ophelia5338

    Probably bc of the new policies that African Americans are affected disproportionately by criminal records and credit checks…and it hinders jobs and other stuff…they aren’t advertising it but for some reason poor white ppl who are also affected by these things aren’t included in the new policy move…some employers I know of 3, around here aren’t checking criminal records on AA only. I have a friend at a car lot and that lot isn’t checking credit history on AA only.

    No one should be surprised in the lack of equal representation under the law. ..look at all the hate crimes against non black persons that aren’t being prosecuted. Now I am not saying anything about AA persons… I am simply pointing out that the law should represent us all. Remember all the laws that in the Jim Crow South that only applied to whites or against blacks??? I think the only color problem our society has is green. ..economics. and politicians and special interest groups use race and religion to divide its citizens to keep their power and money. Its easier for poor ppl to blame othet poor ppl of a different race like police or teachers who are low men on the totum pole or white ppl…our gvt needs a scapegoat. ..

  • Peter

    Johnson – so next time someone is sexually assaulted, we should look into their background and see if they were promiscuous in any way?

    • Jimmy Johnson

      Big difference. But the strong armed robbery that night shows his mentality and state of mind that night.

      • faith

        Internet KKK!

        • Stop the ignorance…
          • faith

            And this proves what exactly?

          • Stop the ignorance…

            Proves nothing….I saw a stupid comment figured you must need something to think about.

          • Stop the ignorance…

            I would ask the same of your “Internet KKK” statement.

        • Jimmy Johnson

          How do you justify that comment ? In what form is that comment even remotely tied to the KKK ?

        • kimmy

          Pissed off at someone are we? Damn Faith, you just keep confirming the claims that just maybe MB was not such a nice boy. Keep typing, MB needs your support

  • Donald L Wilkins

    The records not being released because he is black is bull shit, try again.

  • Daniel Taylor Nash

    Well he sued but has no official records, then claims there is a second degree murder charge. Also a prior criminal record doesn’t mean you can be shot while unarmed. Sorry but even if he did rob the store, your job is to apprehend him, not just shoot because it’s easier.

    • kimmy

      Work smarter not harder

      • Danul Nashua

        Make sense, don’t be an idiot.

        • kimmy

          So I’ll idiot proof it. Why try to reason with someone who is a threat to you (and society) when in the end, someone is going to get hurt.

    • jj

      But you can and should be shot if you are assaulting a police officer and trying to get his gun – it is usually a case of kill or be killed at that point. Fortunately for Wilson, he was able to shove the gun away. It went off and Brown and his side kick both ran together (proving Brown wasn’t being held in the police car as old-time liar Johnson claimed). The police went after them, told them to freeze, Brown turned around taunted the officer then charged him. The policeman did have a right to shoot a charging 292-lb 6′ 4 dude – especially one who had just attacked him.
      So the shooting wasn’t due to the strong-armed robbery even though it was that which put police on the case in the first place, but the physical activities of Brown toward the cop.

      • faith

        Proof please?

        • jj

          Even one of the witnesses Tiffany Mitchell mentions seeing the cop and Brown “tussling” through the window. She also says they looked liked they were “arm wrestling”. The tussling would be the fighting and the “arm wrestling” would be the struggle for the gun.
          She also had mentioned the loud door slam at the beginning before the tussle and arm-wrestling. That slam matches the cop saying that M.B. shoved him back in the vehicle and the door slammed.
          One side of the cop’s face was swollen and he was taken to the hospital, according to reports. However, he did not have an “orbital bone blow out” as some said – at least there’s contradictory reports on this.

          The autopsy shows ALL bullets came from the front. Now Tiffany Mitchell thought she saw Michael Brown’s body twitch as if he’d been hit in the back, but obviously she was mistaken as he had no back hits.
          She probably saw just his muscle movements from changing momentum or his flesh jiggling from the momentum change or sudden stop from running away – could have been his arm movements just before he turned around.
          Anyhow most of her report does gel with the cop’s story, except for some he gun fire. She was imaging/assuming some shooting without it happening and she mistook Brown’s temporary taunting before he charged Wilson as him actually complying.
          I think Brown put his arms up for just a second in MOCKERY at the cop before running after him, as if he was a linebacker going after the quarterback. (Brown did play football when he was younger but I think was too lazy in the later high school years – he’d rather smoke dope. He even has a rap song where he bellows “DOPE!” in his awful voice a few times.)

          • Ruki

            Explain how he got all four shots in his inner arms then? How do you run to get those type of wounds?

            And one of the shots may have grazed him from the back, which could also be what got him to then around.

            You’re twisting everything out of context and just throwing in randomness.

          • jj

            When you have your arms in a running/jogging position your arms are bent up at a sharp angle and pulled in at your sides, sort of across the side of your chest. Just watch videos of sprinters at a competition run towards you. Some of the bullets are claimed have entered and re-entered his body. The hands and forearms are sort of aimed towards the direction you are moving when you run, but generally angled up (sharp bend at elbow over 90 degrees) – hands/semi-fists swinging up towards shoulder height and then the elbows opening up a bit as they swing down. Arms are “pumping”. I think a bullet which went through his hand/forearm could have also hit his biceps area because of how the arm is bent. Plus the bullet wound near Brown’s right nipple (actually it is to the right of that nipple) could have already passed through his arm (in the running position) and then struck him through the chest.
            The man who did the autopsy says that some of the bullets entered and re-entered multiple times.

          • kimmy

            My guess is the arms were out to his side, indicating ‘come on, let’s fight’ which explains the odd entry wounds. They were not in the air, nobody is going to shoot at your arms in the air, that’s a dumb theory. And why the entry wounds to the arm? Maybe the kid was holding something. People really need to look at those pics, they speak vollumes

          • jj

            Did you see the graphic that someone replied to me? It illustrates the paths of a bullets fired straight on into someone in a full run. https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1247/7928/original.jpg?w=800&h

      • Danul Nashua

        Actually lol idiot, a cop NEVER has the right to shoot an unarmed suspect in the back, unless he is ARMED and INTENT on hurting other innocents. What an idiot.

        • jj

          He was NOT shot in the back. That’s the point, idiot. Learn to read properly. I just said shot not “shot in the back” when referring to the assault.

      • Danul Nashua

        We have nothing but the officer’s word, an officer who started in a police department so filled with racial tensions that it had to shut down and completely rebuilt from the ground up. The police report with details this incident, which you ignorantly accept as fact, wasn’t even produced until the department was faced with the threat of being sued by the ACLU. Sorry you can’t shoot an unarmed criminal, 5’0″ to 7’0″ it’s called the law, you don’t like it? Move to Iraq, I hear they’re real lax on who the police shoot there. Learn the law kid.

        • jj

          There’s also the audio witness – which is a person caught on tape at the scene (shortly after Brown died) who is explaining to another who asked how Brown’s body was quite distant from the police car.
          This person describe how Brown ran after the car shots rang out (the misfiring in the car w/ no evidence that Brown was hit), but when the police went after him and yelled, Brown turned around “and saw he had the gun on him” – that was in reference to the policeman.
          Then the witness tells how Brown ran back at the police officer and the police officer kept firing but Brown didn’t go down. The witness is quoted as saying “I was thinking he was missing” – in regards to how Brown didn’t go down. The witness was surprised.
          Then you have the autopsy evidence showing the shots came from the front, as well as the claim that they all seem to be fired from a distance.
          If there’s a court case, I’m sure a whole lot more details will be presented.
          Plus there’s the history of this cop: he is not hot-headed. He has no incidents, and was actually awarded for doing something good in the line of duty about a year and a half ago.
          Brown is shown being a thief and bully on the video. Brown was slow and had to get extra help to graduate. Brown did dope and alcohol as a teen. Whatever did he do good?

  • xstratusx

    Dorian Johnson is lying. Police do not “pull” suspects into the car while they are sitting in the car.

    • jj

      Dorian Johnson has a warrant for a 2011 theft in Jefferson City when he was going to Lincoln College there. He was caught on video tape stealing someone’s backpack at the apartment he was living in. He gave police a false first name “Derrick”, a false age: said he was only 16 when he was 19 at the time (which means he’s 22 now, yet hung out with 18-yr-old Brown), and also tried to hide his ID in his socks. So he has a past of theft, lying to authorities/police and being sneaky. He is not an honest person – and it’s on record.

  • still rockin’

    As sad and senseless as this whole tragedy is, my question to all the people who were out protesting is why his his death so important, but in the last year in Oakland, Ca a 1 and 8 yr old were murdered in cold blood along with a number of young people Brown’s age and except for news coverage and a few people saying this needed to stop there was basically nothing. So who is keeping the race issue alive.

  • PJM

    So, where is the report to support these claims?

  • puhlease

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/19/1323077/-Debunking-Right-Wing-Lies-re-Michael-Brown-Alleged-Rap-Sheet-False# Michael Brown has no criminal or arrest record, juvie or otherwise. People who assert that he does have two things in common 1) racism 2) a low level of intelligence and education which makes it impossible for them to separate fact from fiction in their consumption of media.

    • kimmy

      Wrong! He has a pending case, or had. He was 17, therefore it is not made public. It may or may not involve robbery, however, I’m pretty sure it does. A pending case is a fact, details are speculation, but given the wording, I’m going with some type of robbery

    • Stop the ignorance…

      Well, I guarantee if he did not attack the officer, he would’ve gotten arrested and had a record…oh and LIVED to see another day.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0mVn0HH6U

  • EMHenry

    I’m glad for someone standing up against this blatant one-sidedness that permeates through our country. Yes many will call you a racist for asking about the truth. They can’t argue on merit so they immediately pull out the race card. Stay truthful, and continue on.

  • disqus_yKS8wd5UOg

    Just so you know the right to privacy does not die when a person does. You cannot simply obtain someone’s medical records because they are dead nor can you simply get someone’s court/criminal records because they are dead. Stating that death negates right to privacy means you can get his birth certificate and social security card too (which is incorrect).

    • ThomasER916

      Just so you know you’re really stupid.

  • Dan Cox

    Mr. Brown, a 292 Lb. Bully and Strong-Arm Robber was given a chance to have a good life in a great nation…but choose to die after attacking a Police Officer. I do not feel sorry for him or the people who raised him to push people around and rob them. He got what he deserved.

    • faith

      Provide your address you internet racist!

      • ThomasER916

        You’re so indoctrinated you’re actually stupid.

      • kimmy

        Why would you even request someone’s address? Are you just trying to validate everything people on here have been saying about the actions of blacks against whites? Can you not just express your opinion like a normal person without violence? Now why on earth would anyone even suggest that MB got mad and charged the officer when such calm law abiding citizens as yourself are out here advocating for him? Thank you Faith for confirming our lack there of.

        • faith

          Proving what exactly? Violence has been in your ancestors name since the beginning so you are the pot and kettle with your ignorant-white trash racist ass!

          • kimmy

            I won’t comment to your uneducated, one sided view Faith. You have anger issues, and I didn’t cause them. Talk to your parents about that, not your so called ‘white man’. White trash as to N?

          • faith

            As to N what white trash? Say the word; it is already in your heart. I’m very educated especially in the area of recognizing white trash, white privileged, and white pseduo-intellectual sarcasm a mile away. Murder, mutilation, rape, brutality, genocide, and the like has been in your ancestors blood for over 2000 years more than any other race combined.

          • kimmy

            I couldn’t even tell you who my ancestors are, and neither can you. Nice try with that slave shit though, but since that’s over, could you please do something productive to society? Maybe stop telling white people they’re racist would be a good start you ingnorant uneducated society sucking fool.

    • Ruki

      Do people not understand what strong arm robbery really is? IF he took those cigars, it’s theft not SAR. Glad to know that his life was worth being shot at for a few bucks.

      • DT

        You clearly do not. The officer who responded to the 911 call, classified the robbery correctly. Here is the Missouri statute for reference.

        http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5690000030.HTM

        Missouri Revised Statutes

        Chapter 569

        Robbery, Arson, Burglary and Related Offenses

        Section 569.030

        Robbery in the second degree.

        569.030. 1. A person commits the crime of robbery in the second degree
        when he forcibly steals property.

        2. Robbery in the second degree is a class B felony.

        • Ruki

          “Forcibly steals property” He didn’t forcibly steal anything. He didn’t beat up the clerk to steal his personal items.

          • DT

            Sigh, you pain me. Here is the MO legal definition of forcibly steals. Please show me where the phrase beat up is within the statute.

            http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5690000010.HTM
            “Chapter definitions.

            569.010. As used in this chapter the following terms mean:

            (1) “Forcibly steals”, a person “forcibly steals”, and thereby commits
            robbery, when, in the course of stealing, as defined in section 570.030, he
            uses or threatens the immediate use of physical force upon another person for
            the purpose of:

            (a) Preventing or overcoming resistance to the taking of the property or
            to the retention thereof immediately after the taking; or

            (b) Compelling the owner of such property or another person to deliver up
            the property or to engage in other conduct which aids in the commission of
            the theft; ”

            What MIke Brown did, as evidenced on video and correctly determined by the responding officer, was forcibly steal per the legal definition.

          • dt

            From another DT, don’t bother with the facts. They don’t want to hear them. Most people would not want to live within a ten mile radius of Mr. Brown but they will scream bloody murder about this. He strong armed a store clerk and PUNCHED a police officer. But in this day and age he’s supposed to be allowed to do what he likes with no repercussions. And all the rest of us law abiding citizens are just supposed to cower in fear. It’s becoming survival of the fittest.

          • DT

            It’s ok, I enjoy being snarky. I don’t expect those who have their minds slammed shut to even entertain my posts. For the rest of you, please take amusement along with me.

          • Ruki

            What’s the definition of theft vs robbery since one is a misdemeanor vs felony? Under 500 = theft.

          • DT

            Hands on clerk = robbery. The reporting officer was correct in his classification.

          • kimmy

            Once one crosses the line from theft to robbery, vallue is no longer a factor. It is not the cost of the object you fool, it is the manor in which it is taken.

      • kimmy

        Who’s choice was that? He took the fucking blunts! He got busted and attacked the store owner. Fucking punk!

  • Suhm Guy

    Stop bringing race into this you single celled fucks. Black, white, brown, yellow, blue, purple, rainbow…. WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT COLOR? Only racists. We don’t know the truth yet, so MOST of you should quit assuming you know it, or start posting those referencesto all these “facts” you heard of. Only a fool would take your word for it.

    • Ruki

      Which facts are you referring to?

  • jonahblock

    his past crimes had nothing to do with him being murdered….. I agree it’s public record but you are suing for the right to paint someone evil….. this cop murdered someone….. he should be in jail behind bars where he can be safe from the moms for the crime he committed….. regardless if the kid was in a gang or not.

    • nigga hate

      nigger lover

      • jonahblock

        you are only helping my point… or trolling.

    • Michael F

      His actions during that day do, but, there is such a cloud over that, its unbelievable, the first thing you see on the news, is fact and bible, i.e. Dorian Johnson’s testimony, which he has already admitted to flipping, I’m certain that that kid doesn’t have the balls to lie under oath if this case goes to a grand jury, the media has spread a botched portrayal, that has led to chaos and more death

  • nigga hate

    just kill all the niggers

    • kimmy

      Are you that mad? Surely you can handle 13% of the population, or did you dad just pound that in your head?

    • jj

      Then the U.S. wouldn’t win so many Olympic medals.

  • rota cetle

    If blacks had their way the Officer would have been lynched long before any facts were found just like blacks do in their uncivilized third world countries.

    • faith

      “If the blacks had their way”…Yep, that sounds pretty prejudiced to me. Are you part of the new internet KKK?

  • Jennifer J Hill

    why is this tragedy becoming a competition? : ‘one side raising more money than the other'; ‘ x has more supporters than y’. PLease stop and think and gather all information before complaining about something. Get the facts. Let all have a day in court.

  • Goldenarm9

    The Black George Zimmerman
    http://rochester.twcnews.com/content/news/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

    Why was there not an outcry from the black community about a unarmed white kid being shot by a black neighborhood watch leader ?

  • MM

    Do you really think people believe that this was a squeaky-clean kid? Supposed gang ties don’t mean much – my brother was listed as a gang member by the police department in my old neighborhood. Guess what? Neither he, nor his friends, were in one. Honestly, his record will be irrelevant to most people and here’s why. What’s happening in Ferguson is not just about Mike Brown. It is about a history of problems with the police and their interactions with some groups. If it weren’t Brown, it would have been someone else. Someone like . . . my husband – with no arrest record – who opened our front door and got a gun to his temple. What if it had gone off? What could they say – Ooops? It is about the strong-arm tactics that have been used by our law enforcement officers and this strange correlation between their tactics and the death of Americans, many of them brown or black. Why is that? It is about how a member of one group can open fire in a movie theater and be taken alive while members of other groups are shot down. I don’t think his juvenile record will stop the protests because his shooting seems to be the straw that broke the camel’s back. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – officers need to wear cameras at ALL times to protect citizens and themselves. If Officer Wilson had an operational camera, there wouldn’t be any questions about whether or not Mike Brown’s hands were up. The officer’s story (or the witnesses’ contradicting stories) could be verified. It’s stupid not to have cameras in place as a fail-safe. The majority of police officers are, in my opinion, trying to do the right thing. If Officer Wilson is one of the many upright officers out there, this should be motivation for him, and his law-abiding colleagues, to clean house. If there wasn’t scandal, crooked cops, and profiling, people wouldn’t be so quick to believe that he was at fault. Again, the Mike Brown incident just caused the pot to boil over, it could have been John Smith or anyone else. People are tired of this and that’s why his record will not make a difference.

    • kimmy

      When is that damn camel going to fucking die? 1865 was a long damn time ago and nobody I know had anything to do with it. Trust me, plenty of white people are killed by cops, but probably more by racial hate crimes

      • MM

        I’ve been asking the same question about that camel for a while now. I’ve seen the accounts of white people being killed by them. That’s why I think Brown’s record isn’t going to matter. That’s why I said that it’s about the tactics that our police officers are using. Look at the recent headlines. Beating a deaf man into a coma because he wasn’t following their orders?!?!?! Umm, he was deaf. Shooting a guy in SLC for not following orders – umm, he was wearing headphones and couldn’t hear them. Who said anything about 1865? I’m talking about the present. I am well aware of the fact that white people are killed by cops, too. There is a problem with those sword to protect and serve and something needs to be done about it.

      • faith

        Show me your statistics to show that plenty of white people are killed by cops.

        • gregzotta

          According to an August 20, 2014 Salt Lake Tribune
          article, Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank stated one Dillon
          Taylor was shot and killed by a Utah police officer. Burbank said the officer
          was wearing a camera, but he has not yet released the video or the police
          officers name. In that article, “Burbank drew a distinction between
          Taylor’s shooting, in which the officer involved was not white, and the
          racially charged shooting of Michael Brown, the black teenager who was fatally
          shot by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo., two days before Taylor was
          killed.” “In which the officer involved was not white” What does that
          mean? What color was he? Pink? Purple? Green? No! The officer was black. So,
          this incident involved a black police officer shooting an unarmed white teen.
          The investigation is ongoing and it is best to wait for the investigation to be
          completed, instead of jumping to conclusions and a rush to judgment. Justice is supposed to be blind.
          And in
          this country there is the presumption of innocence, which includes the police
          officer. Nevertheless, will Eric Holder
          call for a Civil rights investigation to be conducted in this incident? Will Al
          Sharpton and the other race baiters descend upon Salt Lake City? Will the
          rioters show up? What about the so-called Mainstream Media. Will they show up
          in force? We will have to wait and see, but I seriously doubt any of it.

          • faith

            Still no statistics aye?

          • kimmy

            Look at the fucking demographics. When the population is 75% white, then the odds are your police force will be 75% white! How many black cops are there in that area? And I’m sure it has nothing to do with them not getting hired. You have to apply to get hired, and you have to want to work to apply. That is the reason your black friends are more likely to be brought to justice by a white cop!

        • kimmy

          Do you even know what the white to black ratio is in America? Think about what you’re saying. I don’t need fucking statistics, it’s simple math!

      • Ruki

        White people are mostly killed by white people, “probably more by racial hate crimes” is completely false. 150 years is not that long ago.

        • kimmy

          You have no idea because you can’t get over the black thing. Since there are more white cops, and more white people, then obviously there are going to be more whites shot by cops, and I’m certain they are shot for a reason. You don’t hear about it because white families do not make excuses for their fucked up kids, and they respect their country and laws

          • Ruki

            Whites killed by whites period. Never said whites killed by cops. So no, whites are not killed mostly by racial hate crimes.

          • kimmy

            Well duh, we don’t go around just killing our own people. That would be black on black. So basically, blacks hate their own race since there’s more black on black crime

          • Ruki

            There is about the same amount of blacks who kill blacks as there is whites who kills whites.

            Do white people hate their own race too since they perform crimes on their own race too?

          • kimmy

            That’s pretty sad since the black race only makes up about 13% of the population

          • kimmy

            Tell that to the Jews

      • Jakes_momma

        1865 was a long time ago. However, it was only 51 years ago next month that a car full of white men threw a bomb into a black Baptist church and killed 4 little girls. More black people were killed in the protests of the bombing. In my lifetime – in living memory these things have happened.

        Just trying to keep this in context.

        • kimmy

          1956 Hebrew Benevolent. So did the Jewish people riot and rob their own neighbors? Did they call white people racist? Nope, they rebuilt and moved on. Probably because they had to get up and go to work the next day. A very personal family member of mine was raped by 2 black men, both under 21. She was very young, but I didn’t riot, I didn’t rob my neighbors. You want to cry injustice because the boys were given life in prison?

          • kimmy

            Before you answer, the boys got NOTHING because the investigator convinced the mom that a trial would be embarassing to the girl. That’s where big brothers come in handy

    • jj

      There are definitely bully-cops and something strange is going on with all the shootings of people’s dogs. But just because there are some bad ones and also perhaps some black-ops against citizens by the police/military/homeland security connection, doesn’t mean that there aren’t also a lot of decent ones who are just doing their job.
      I definitely do believe this officer was honest and did what he had to do against and aggressive, violent, huge bully. I think Brown had some hatred and resentment against whites and the police. He has some rap songs which show racism against whites and talks about killings and immoral things.
      This officer had a stellar record, he wasn’t a hot-head – is described as very quiet and polite. He wanted to work in Ferguson, even though he could have taken a safer neighborhood.
      I think he actually liked black/mixed neighborhoods, but Brown was simply too much and out of control and I do think Brown would have seriously injured or killed Wilson if he got better control of the officer’s gun. It was a close call during the car-struggle.
      I’ll say that with regards to Zimmerman I do think he was in the wrong and killed a kid unnecessarily. Also that New York guy chocked and suffocated by the 4 police jumping on him – I believe they are guilty.
      There’s nothing in the Wilson case that rings like the genuine evil/bully/racist ones for me. The only thing that could have been done differently in 20/20 hindsight is to have allowed Brown and sidekick to run at the moment and then get a warrant for Brown’s arrest for the strong-armed robbery and the assault on the police officer. The video would have him identified and police would have come to pick him up at grandmother’s house.
      In that scenario, Brown would have likely gone to jail for a couple years.

      • MM

        You make very good points, jj. As I stated in my comment, I believe that the majority of police officers are there to do the right thing. Most of them don’t sign up to bully people, but those that do make it hard on the rest of them. They have always been polite and respectful when I’ve dealt with them, so I know that most of them are trying to do something good. I honestly think this was bound to happen eventually – the people involved just happened to be Mike Brown and Darren Wilson.

      • kimmy

        And then what? After a couple of years do you believe he would have contributed to society, or just sucked up it’s resources?

        • jj

          He was supposedly going to a trade school “college” to get a degree in heating and air conditioning repair. One could only imagine, if he managed to get his degree and employment, how he’d scare customers when he came over, and maybe even swipe things from their homes.

          • kimmy

            Oh I’m sure he was already practicing a trade, hence the cigars

  • magormissabib

    I think his actions in the video speak volumes. He was a violent bully. I am all for police accountability but when I saw the video I had to rethink my position.

  • Gmoney fat stacks

    since when do juvenile reports get released? Its funny I never hear of guys juvenile records be requested of the people that shoot up schools and movie theaters. If necessary it would be bought up in court, which we know this will never go to. Why would morons on these dumbass records need to see his past record. court of public opinion is not real court

    • magormissabib

      tell that to the protesters and looters.

    • kimmy

      A dream or rapper name?

  • Final_Word

    Look, we all know the truth about the animals. We also know that animals lie.

  • DeBorahe Gibson

    What does releasing his juvenile record have to do with what happened?

    • gregzotta

      Shows the THUG Michael Brown was not the gentle giant they portrayed him to be.

      • Dude Manly

        Thug = 21st century racist slur. I’m sure you’re a gentle giant, what with spewing racist nonsense about someone you never met and whose only crime against you was being murdered by a cop.

        • Stop the ignorance…

          Thug = Anyone who intimidates or tries to harm someone. Michael brown moments before his “murder” Committed three crimes….yeah, he’s not a thug.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0mVn0HH6U

        • kimmy

          Why is everything a racist slur when white people say it, but black people can say nigger all day long and it’s okay? Talk about double standards. Wonder why whites are so uptight? Because we can say or do anything without offending black people. Not even police their shitty neighborhoods

        • gregzotta

          Hey Dummy,Not racist, but REALIST. Have you seen the video of the strong arm robbery committed by the “gentle” giant, Michael brown? If not you should watch it before making idiotic comments. The video revealed Brown was not the “gentle”
          giant they tried to portray him to be, but instead a very aggressive
          intimidating bully;i.e. a THUG, which leads one to believe that is how he acted when
          confronted by the police officer. Then there was the claim that Brown was shot in
          the back. We now know that is NOT true. Murder? What? Were you there? No. Do you have a crystal ball? No. Was Michael Brown an innocent babe as portrayed? No. Are you rushing to judgment prior to the investigation being completed? Yes. That is why it is best to wait to for the investigation to be completed, instead of jumping to conclusions and a rush to judgment. Unfortunately, the black activists’ definition of justice is not justice, but just-us with a lynch mob mentality.

    • Nikki

      It’s an attempt to discredit Michael Brown’s character

      • Robert Schaeffer

        He was a violent criminal, according to this record. You seem to not understand what “discredit” means. These are facts about Brown and things he’s done.

        • Dude Manly

          And what does that have to do with being murdered by a cop?

          • Stop the ignorance…

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0mVn0HH6U

            Hop off your high horses you fools.

          • Robert Schaeffer

            Who says he was murdered? People defending a known violent criminal, who had a lengthy record both as a juvenile and an adult- and he was only 18. Brown frequently put himself in harms way and it finally killed him. You’re racist and ignorant, so no matter what Brown was like or what he did, it wont matter to you. All you’re interested in is lynching the officer who shot him.

        • Ruki

          How do you know he was a violent criminal according to this, if it’s not even public yet?

      • kimmy

        Pretty sure he didn’t need any help with that.

    • Robert Schaeffer

      It’s important to accurately describe the “victim” so we can correctly assess whether the person who was shot frequently put himself in a position to be shot by someone, anyone. He wasn’t this helpless victim, as he is being portrayed, he was a violent criminal who often put himself in harm’s way. Common sense should still matter here. Brown was someone who frequently put himself in dangerous situations.

    • Dude Manly

      It gives racists an excuse for cheering on a cop who killed an unarmed black kid. Oh, and because conservative types are bat-shit crazy, and their only message is one of hate, so what else do you expect? I’m waiting for the follow-up article that describes how a previous juvenile crime justifies being murdered by the cops.

      • Puckett

        Oh you mean the unarmed kid that was 6’4″ and weighed 295 lbs. I gotcha.

      • ThomasER916

        You’re really stupid.

      • kimmy

        You got that hate shit backwards. Look around you, do we really need to be reminded that this man was black? Tell me, exactly how many black police officers are there in Ferguson? Oh, and while you’re looking, go ahead and see how many complaints were brought against them for not hiring blacks. You know why that is? Well let me tell you. It’s because of hate. The black people in Ferguson, and so many other black communities hate American cops. Why? Because cops are the only people who have ever held them accountable for their actions. PS, some juvenile crimes are tried as adult crimes for a reason. Murder for example. I think the point our law is trying to make is, a bad seed will never grow, so no sense on wasting any effort on it.

  • Kathy J Casey

    My thought is abt the irony of a civil rights protest calling for the cop’s arrest prior to the grand jury. I did happen to see and hear a vid being shot in real time. a dude shooting the travesty of leaving the decedent in the street. There were 2 eye witnesses behind the dude filming and, recording audio. One witness said He just kept comin’ , never seen anything like that, talk about the kid not being affected by the first few shots. You can very easily tell it’s excited utterances vs scripted agenda. Interesting to see toxicology results.

    • Robert Schaeffer

      Facts aren’t going to matter. Didnt matter in the Trayvon Martin case either. Why would they matter here? The media is again using a sweet childhood pic of the dead “boy” when in real life nothing could be further from the truth.

    • jj

      Yes, and the autopsy shows why Brown wasn’t going down at first (seemingly invincible to both the officer and that witness): the initial shots were just hitting Brown’s right arm – and it seems just the inner fleshy parts – at least one was just a grazing too. So Wilson’s aim was off to Brown’s right: he thought he was hitting him center mass, as they are trained, but they weren’t. Plus there could have been some shots which did completely miss Brown – off to Brown’s right most likely.

      • DT

        I saw this graphic posted on twitter yesterday. It is not my creation and I omitted the person’s info as I do not want them harassed. It should give anyone that is not intellectually dishonest pause to reflect on how the shooting may have occurred.

        • DT

          Hrm, I am not seeing the photo. Perhaps they are not allowed here.

          • jj

            I see the photo just fine. Thanks for posting it. It shows how the same red line (representing the path of the bullet) can cross through both parts of the arm (or hand and arm) and the same path leads to the chest.

          • kimmy

            Good pic!

    • Bagga

      type of Bullitt the cop had wasn’t big enough to drop a very large man…I believe he had a 9mil… that would feel like a bee sting to him..unless it hit bone…if however, he had what I carry…a 45!! the first Bullitt that hit him would have brought him down!

  • Kathy J Casey

    mea culpa for laziness with editing and punctuation. Ya make me laugh when corrections take place though

  • Robert Schaeffer
  • bwt

    When will the court rule on the release of (if any) documents regarding M. Brown?

  • The_Pokemon_Master

    Juvenile Records are not Public Records they are normal sealed when the person turns 18 they will not get them as Right to Privacy does not end when you die. And even if they win the family can sue to keep them from publishing them. Its been proven the following

    The cop did not even knew about the robery
    That the boy was un armed
    That they can not even prove that the boy was involved with the Robery.

    I think the first thing to do is investigate the 1st Crime the Robbery if this boy was involved the Move on if he was not then the Cop needs charges brought up.

    • jj

      The cop DID know there was a robbery but he didn’t know that Brown and his sidekick were involved when he first spotted them walking in the middle of the street.
      But the cop was patrolling in the first place because of the robbery.
      The cop was assisting in a “sick call” – which is a call which needs and ambulance – when the robbery report came in. Because it was nearby and because the cop was merely “assisting” – which meant others were there to take care of things – he went to check it out.
      He yelled at the young men to get out of the street – said that they were blocking traffic. They didn’t heed his advice. He had driven on ahead a bit and pulled off to park on the side of the road to watch them. I guess he found there behavior strange/suspicious.

      While he was parked, he heard a detailed description of the subjects and what they stole on the police radio. He saw that they matched the description and appeared to be carrying the stolen merchandise.

      So he backed up his car right to them. Since they were STILL in the middle of the street, they were right next to his car door. He started to open the door and Mike Brown used his body to close it. A very bold move on Brown’s part.
      The cop opened his door again and started to get out when suddenly Brown BUMRUSHED him and threw him back in the police vehicle and the door loudly slammed shot. Even one of the witnesses mentions hearing this loud door slam.
      Next Michael Brown hit the officer and tried to get his gun. There was a struggle and the gun went off in the car. It didn’t seem to hit anyone. (Ballistics on the path of that bullet should be given.)
      Brown and his sidekick ran. The police got out and ran after them, told them to freeze. They stopped running, Brown turned around and then taunted the police officer. Then he charged the officer from 35 feet away. The policeman started firing his gun but Brown didn’t go down. He fired more and Brown was still running. Finally the policeman aimed for his head and Brown received the fatal shot into his right eye. As he was falling another bullet hit his scalp. Brown fell on the pavement and his hands are down near his sides NOT above his head.
      As for the robbery – it is caught on video tape – and it IS Brown. Brown’s size, Brown’s look, Brown’s clothes – Cardinal’s cap, T-shirt, long shorts, socks & flip flops. It is also Brown’s sidekick, Dorian Johnson seen with him.

      And Johnson has ADMITTED with his lawyer that it was INDEED them.

      • Chris Riordan

        That is the cop’s version. According to an eye witness, what happened was the cop put the car in reverse as Brown was getting out of the street and called him over. When he came over, the cop showed him his gun and said, “I’m going to kill you.” At this point Brown turn and fled and the cop gave pursuit. After being told to freeze or he would be shot, Brown stopped and turned around. The cop said to come to him, and as soon as Brown took a foot the cop squeezed off all six round and said, “told you I was gonna kill you.”

        • Stop the ignorance…
        • jj

          No, the policeman did not call them over. Even Brown’s sidekick claims the car practically ran into them as it was so close. Brown and sidekick were still walking in the middle of the street, not the sidewalk and not the curb, but in the driving lanes. The sidekick also claims that the policeman was so close that his car door “ricocheted” off Brown when he tried to open it – that it sort of bounced off him and re-closed.
          The policeman claims Brown used his body to push it closed.

        • kimmy

          You seriously believe that? Please say you don’t, or admit that you asked permission to sign on to the internet. No sane person would ever buy that story

          • Chris Riordan

            Kimmy you only believe what FOX News tells you.

          • kimmy

            No, I just don’t believe what criminals, radicals and liberals tell me

          • Chris Riordan

            Oh, Kimmy – so naive.

    • Byron Sanders

      Actually, lawyers can get them released. When you die, your privacy goes away. Stop trying to sound smart because you watch law and order

    • Mercyneal

      Um, the police officer figured out he was a suspect when he saw the cigars in his hand. The African American Police chief stated this at least eight days ago. Sure wish you’d bothered to read up on the case before posting.

      And if you’d done your homework, you would have seen that the ATTORNEY for Dorian Johnson has admitted that Brown committed the robbery, and Johsons was there.

      Being in denial will get you nowhere.

      You also might want to brush up on your spelling. “Robery?” “Un armed?” Really?

  • Michael F

    Has anyone stopped and thought that this officer didnt want to kill him? Has anyone stopped and thought, hey, why would he shoot him four times in the arm, but then and only then, after shoot twice to the head? Likely to disable him from what he was doing, but he left him no choice in the end. He wasnt shot from behind, as per the autopsy results, but hey, thats just some subjective thought for anyone

    • Kendra Appleseed

      Yes, many people have thought that. Like this guy wanted to give up his career, and the life he knew for this? He was such a closet bigot that he waited for the right chance to mow some innocent CHILD down in the street in broad daylight – with a witness around.

      People’s emotions and preconceived opinions of racial and police brutality have certainly gotten in the mix. Frankly Mike Brown seems like a very questionable poster boy for either issue, I for one would rather have a better symbol for matters I wanted changed. He is appearing to be the perfect example of why police have to use other means of policing.

    • Marcy Brown

      Evidence? They don’t need no stinking evidence. Objectivity? They don’t need objectivity or rational thought, either. What’s the use of that when raw, violent emotion moves more mountains than reviewing evidence with an open mind?

      • Michael F

        My thoughts exactly, it is judge, jury, and executioner that is out already, give the justice system its due, everyone has eaten up the Dorian Johnson story, and he had a history of falsifying police reports, but yet, because of all the racial firestorm, thats just slander and is in NO WAY relevant to this case, but yet, the man holds all the credibility in the world, its complete hypocrisy

  • scaryterry

    “Apparently, the records of dead blacks cannot be released but those of dead whites may be—at least according to the St. Louis County. What could be more racist?”

    For the life of me I honestly can’t figure out if this is satire. I have a bad feeling it’s not. You are such a lost, hopeless person and you profess to be some sort of intellectual, and you talk about writing a book for god’s sake.

    Just a tip, since struggling for space in a twitter post is a subtle art form some researchy story scoopy scholars are apparently intermediate at, you “file a lawsuit” or you “file a lawsuit in (insert specific court here” you don’t “file a lawsuit in” like it’s a pizza. I only say this because those two characters could have contributed to more reality tea or real-time stew or whatever you call it in your head as your friend takes a picture of you looking at a phone.

    P.S. You can’t be racist against white people kiddo. I can explain it to you or you can google it like an adult, and then search “books” in amazon or something if you want to be a writer.

    • Byron Sanders

      Did you really say that it is impossible to be racist against white people? What kind of ignorant, clueless statement is that? You have nothing to explain. No sources, just conjecture. I actually feel sorry for you. You should look at getting an education.

    • Kendra Appleseed

      Thanks for the laugh! Can’t be racist against another race? Please go look up the definition of “racism”, no one race owns the rights to it. If the statement your posting about is true, yes it’s a clear cut example of racism, with discrimination thrown in also.

      • Bagga

        TO ALL MORONS!!!!—THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE ON THIS PLANET!!!! ITS CALLED HUMAN!!! And its time some of you join it!!!!??? or take a science class!

    • kimmy

      Tell that to the Jews

    • Bagga
  • Phil

    So the request was denied? So you have no “news” to report? So this is just you trying to further your career on the death of a child and the unfortunate situation that followed? Gotcha

    • John Wong

      At age 18 Brown was legally an adult, not a child.

    • Mercyneal

      Um, did you read the story? He has sued to get the records. News organizations do it all the time.

  • ClearLyns Glassis

    The cop shot an unarmed teenager not knowing about the alleged store robbery before hand or his prior manslaughter record…..The “officer” and guy suing for Brown’s records is stupid as the people writing all these unintelligent statements! #ferguson #bitchassness

    • Kendra Appleseed

      I love when people post about this! You do realize that your statement gives more weight to the cops actions right? While the officer may or may not have known about the previous robbery and assault of the clerk and now the possible manslaughter record – Mike did. It sure may have changed his reaction to the situation. He had such a bright future, why would he want to get in trouble for the cigrellos? Nice!

    • Mercyneal

      Boy are you ever behind in your news pal. The police chief (who is African American) said at least eight days ago that Wilson saw the cigars in Brown’s hand and figured out he was the suspect. The unarmed teenager that you write about was 6 foot four, 300 pounds and had just committed a felony- a strongarm robbery, then ASSAULTED a police officer and made a grab for his gun. What part of that don’t you understand? Why are you so uptight about his juvenile records? if there’s nothing there, it should be all good, right? But methinks you are a tad nervous about what’s in them. Tick tock, tick tock, Clarice.

  • Cranky Crab

    You dumbfucks do understand that previous arrest records have no bearing on police conduct, right?

    I hope some black guy finds you and lights your faggoty-shade-wearing ass all the way up. You don’t live yere. You don’t know what the cops are like here (hint: corrupt, bullying and racist.)

    Eat a bowl of fuck, Charles B. Cocksmoking.

    • Michael F

      If you eat a bowl of fuck, chances are you’ll be sick in the morning, but then that also depends on the flavor of the bowl itself

      • Joshua Jansen

        I thought it depended on the animal. If you ate cockroach fuck you might be dead, cause literally everything in their body becomes cyanide eventually.

    • Kendra Appleseed

      Actually they most certainly do, please go read Missouri laws regarding how police officers handle matters. Now possibly you meant previous arrest records have no bearing in a court setting? Maybe I’m just such a dumbfuck though, I can’t tell what you mean.

      Now in regards to your threat about a black man finding and lighting someone up- isn’t that exactly what may have happened? A black man trying to light someone up, like let’s say a police officer?

      Duh dude, you may want to look at what you post before you hit “Post as……”

    • Mercyneal

      Huh?

    • kimmy

      You’re fucking stupid. And I don’t live there by choice, so don’t throw that bullshit around

  • Christina Ann Tenti

    I believe the dispute was in regard to shooting Michael Brown who was unarmed, not whether or not he deserved it. And, guilt by association is asinine. Maybe the kid was trash. Maybe the officer was justified but the records mean nothing. Going to volunteer in that area for children would help alleviate further violence and be a more cost-effective, ethical, and rewarding time spent.

    • Mercyneal

      The dispute is whether he attacked the officer and grabbed his gun, pal.

      • Christina Ann Tenti

        Great point, sorry. I misspoke. Even more reason to forget about the records. If he did attack the officer and grab his gun, then it’s an open and shut case.

        • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine

          The records would show the state of mind of Michael Brown at the time of the incident. How he responds to situations.

          If the records show a history of violence, that would certainly up the chances of him responding with violence during this particular confrontation.

          Especially since it’s likely that Brown thought the cop knew he had just robbed a store, therefore concluding he was possibly in danger of being arrested, etc.

    • kimmy

      You might start with the parents. You can’t repair a house on weak foundation.

  • datbeezy

    Yes, dummy, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE MORE RACIST THAN WITHHOLDING RECORDS? I’ve got an idea or two…

  • ClearLyns Glassis

    Bitch ass motherfuckers would sue for a kid’s records but y’all wont do anything about the pending patent holders of a new technology all dying on that first Malaysian flight? Freescale Semicondutors is owned by David Rothschild which is now the sole owner of that technology……….Anybody gonna speak up about Russia invading the Ukraine around the same time that the worlds oldest pyramid was found in Crimea?

    • Klaxon12

      Hahahahahahahahahaha thanks for the laugh!

    • kimmy

      You get your history and current events from social media?

  • Alesy Ortiz

    whatever he did prior to his murder should have no bearing here. that is why juvie records are sealed. the ferguson police department did not keep personnel records in regards of use of force or incident reports prior to 2009 so looking into the past of darren wilson is useless also. and why is a person of interest in a murder permitted to leave the state in which the crime took place? why can’t we just focus on the actual crime committed here. an officer shot an unarmed teenager six times, twice in the head. what does public opinion of either individual in this matter have to do with incident?

    • Mercyneal

      Of course what he did prior to being shot is relevant. If he attacked the officer and grabbed his gun, and was involved in a violent robbery before hand, you’re darn tootin’ it’s relevant, pal. Just because the facts don’t fit your narrative doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be included.

    • joe

      Here is a youtube video that proves your theory of a police officer shooting an unarmed person as murder. Boy is it going to PO a lot of libs if they bother to watch it.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23c7ovuSd2U

      • Gloria Godwin

        That man had someone looking after him! Dear Lord! Being in that profession is something that I would never do! Could never do!

    • edik415

      But unfortunately, his history does matter. Ferguson’s not that big, so it wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn that Wilson already knew Brown, if he had a record. Now, those are big “if’s,” but that’s why his behavior prior to the shooting is important. It’s also important that we know as much about the officer as possible, for similar reasons. To only focus only on the event likely won’t paint a clear enough picture of what happened.

    • zargeo

      Whatever he did prior does not matter??? How ridiculous!!! Of course it matters. It reveals what his state of mind was at the time of this encounter. His past criminal history speaks volumes of his propensity for committing acts against society. His thuggish behavior shows his arrogance and attitude toward the law. Does not matter?? Your statement tells me that no matter what Brown’s past revealed – you will weigh in on the side of this thug.

    • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine

      2009 is 5 years ago. Darren Wilson has been there only 6 years. They have his history.

  • MRHahn

    In many states, juvenile criminal records are not public. It doesn’t surprise me that Brown’s juvenile history isn’t being released. If a judge in an adult criminal court isn’t allowed to see a juvenile record, why should the media?

    • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine

      Simply because there’s already a precedence in that state to release a juvenile record after that person is dead.

      Did you read the whole post up there?

      • MRHahn

        Yes, I read it, but that doesn’t mean the precedent is right. And a precedent that is set in the a civil suit (as the wrongful death case) does not necessarily apply to freedom of information requests.

  • Gina

    I am so tired of blacks crying policy brutality and blacks are the victims when in fact more whites than blacks are shot by police. Release Michael Brown’s juvenile records!

    1. “He was only 18, and already had a string of adult felony arrests, plus a juvie record we won’t see.” source: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1028351/pg1

    Date: 11/02/2013 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD
    Code: 1401000 Description: Burglary – 1st Degree { Felony B RSMo: 569.160 }
    Code: 3101000 Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }
    Code: 1301100 Description: Assault 1st Degree – Serious Physical Injury { Felony A RSMo: 565.050 }
    Code: 3101000 Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }

    2. “Over the span of more than a decade, 2,151 whites died by being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.” Source- Tampa Bay Times: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/21/michael-medved/talk-show-host-police-kill-more-whites-blacks/

    • kimmy

      Gina, dude just turned 18 this year. I’m getting worried here, seems like the records people are giving us are bogus. Ughhh. There has to be something more solid, I hope

  • Adam Karst

    Does it matter?! his past? Angel or not? Was the COP wrong or right!!! Period!

    • Mercyneal

      His actions and past matter. Because he robbed a store and thought he was being arrested for it, he attacked the cop .What part of that don’t you get?

      • Joshua Jansen

        He’s asking if knowing his criminal record prior to this changes the story, not whether or not him robbing a store changes things. It won’t change the reality of what happened, but it might shed light on motives and circumstance.

    • Marcy Brown

      It does matter. It further demonstrates his propensity for violence and disregard for the rights of others.

      • Bill Taylor

        so according to you after a female has sex for the first time after that she can NEVER claim rape no matter what happens in the future…….

        • kimmy

          Depends, is she claiming rape every time? People don’t change Bill

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  • John Kaiser

    WHY is it that ONLY whites are racist when the most BLATANT racists are the ones POINTING THE FINGER? I guess they don’t realize that when they point the finger at someone calling them a racist, THERE’S THREE POINTING BACK AT THEM! Try it, you’ll get it or you need help.

  • Babs

    The following was posted in the comments section of a yahoo article:

    Michael Brown’s growing rap sheet on casenet police computer file.
    Description: Burglary – 1st Degree { Felony B RSMo: 569.160 }
    Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1401000
    OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD
    Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }
    Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000
    OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD
    Description: Assault 1st Degree – Serious Physical Injury { Felony A RSMo: 565.050 }
    Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1301100
    OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD
    Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }
    Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000
    OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

    http://news.yahoo.com/michael-brown-called-little-kid-big-body-143638494.html

    • kimmy

      Thought Mike Brown turned 18 in like May. I’m being let down here

      • allahu.snackbar

        He turned 18 on May 20, 2014. Those may be sealed records because he was a “child” back in November.

        • kimmy

          The records above appear to be public. Not sure I believe they belong to Brown, unless they are his prior to turning 18? Not saying he didn’t have a record, I’m just saying I don’t think this fits, and I don’t like trash

  • kimmy

    Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on.

    • Bud Simpson

      You’re saying the citizens of Ferguson insisted on the type of law enforcement they have?

      • kimmy

        Well yeah, I am. You applying anytime soon? Didn’t think so

  • Limited Zap

    Let us know when you sue to get Dillon Taylor’s police and public records.

    • Mercyneal

      You mean Dorian Taylor’s records? He has a lengthy rap sheet and a lot of it is public.

    • Bud Simpson

      Don’t need to, they are already out.

      • Limited Zap

        And just as irrelevant as Michael Brown’s are to his shooting.

        • Joe Video

          One of Brown’s juvenile arrests involved second degree murder. Stay tuned: Brown’s family and the rest of the con artists are not going to like it when all is said and done, just like Trayvon Martin’s “supporters” threw a fit when the public was told that the Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail he bought at a 7-11 were not a snack but 2/3 of the ingredients of “Lean,” a variety of the drug Purple Drank.

          • Limited Zap

            I’m not clear what you’re saying. Because Brown may have been arrested for second degree murder in his past, it’s perfectly acceptable to gun him down in broad daylight? I had a relative arrested for involuntarily vehicular manslaughter when he was a kid. I’d hate for him to be shot dead in the street now for it, although I still feel like he’s a piece of shit for what he did then.

            Is this some weird sort of revisionist world where we kill people we don’t like, then justify it afterwards to make ourselves feel better? Or are you trying to make the argument that if Michael Brown hadn’t been heroically slaughtered, he would have become the next Hitler?

            The fact that he may have a juvenile arrest record that includes second degree murder is somewhat inconsequential anyway — was he convicted and served time in juvenile prison, or were there no charges? I’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter either way, unless Officer Wilson was working off of knowledge that Michael Brown was guilty of second degree murder, had escaped from detention and was about to go on a killing spree. All evidence points to Officer Wilson not having that information.

            Color me skeptical of ‘second degree murder arrest’, anyway, since this is the same sort of journalism that told us that Darren Wilson had suffered a fractured eye socket… then it turns out that the x-ray that was being shown as ‘proof’ was taken from a University website circa 2007.

            But by all means, continue to support character assassination of someone who has been murdered. If he isn’t obviously guilty of something off the bat, we can certainly manufacture something to make this killing OK.

          • kimmy

            You know what this is about? It’s about supporting your local police, in turn, your country. It sickens me that a member of law enforcement is being treated like this. We (as a country) ask these people to make our streets safer. We ask them to approach people of questionable character so we don’t have to. Now, everyone is turning their back on this cop. The only reason this all started is because someone said the guy had his hands in the air, which we now find out is a lie. When that horse died, they said he was not armed. Okay, he wasn’t armed. He was obviously a threat! Remember, a whole country was brought to their knees with box knives. Guns are not the only weapons police are trained to respond to

          • Jo K Eas

            Why it matters is same reason it mattered with trayvon. The BGI is trying to make mike look like a sweet innocent child who wouldn’t hurt a fly. Just like the little child picture of trYvon thug. Character matters to get to what happened. A thug is likely to have charged officer and got his dumb ass DRT. A sweet gentle giant would have got his ass off the road and on the sidewalk as a police officer told him. So yez it does matter. And for your ingo I’m pretty sure that mike was of the former….but not sure yet if officer was justified in the shooting yet. As far as police releasing info they are smart to keep it close to vest so that the Black Greivance Industry has no info to spin their story on and when have you ever had the police releasing facts while an investigation is ongoing.

        • Marcy Brown

          Then why aren’t people protesting and rioting over his death? Not enough melanin to make you care?

        • Mercyneal

          Brown’s records are not irrelevant. Why are you so afraid of them coming out?

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  • Radio Free America

    Support Officer Darren Wilson here http://teespring.com/FergusonCopTee

  • ApolloP

    …Rodney King, and OJ Simpson are respectable too. (barf)

  • Joe Video

    Brown was wearing a red St. Louis Cardinals cap when he robbed the store and assaulted the clerk. Crips wear blue; Bloods wear red. A Crip would not be wearing a red cap or anything else that was red.

    • kimmy

      Seriously? Who knows that kind of shit? This brings me to my next question. Why not remove the tags?

      • King-Excellent

        Because the caché which comes from genuine sportswear is in how well-preserved it remains from the condition of purchase – when the only thing which makes your existence different from those around you is your choice of consumer products the quality, authenticity, and intactness of those goods is of paramount importance.

        • kimmy

          I guess I don’t get that. So I need to leave the tags on my jeans?

        • kimmy

          How sad an existance when THAT defines you

      • allahu.snackbar

        Leaving tags on = “I’m a bad a** who shoplifted it.”

  • dcb1981

    Thanks again to Charles Johnson.

  • Marcy Brown

    Thank you Charles for standing up for the TRUTH instead of the lies the media and MB fan club keeps telling.

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  • kimmy

    Hey, the president is BLACK!

  • blhubbs

    After viewing the video of Michael Brown, it is clear that he brazenly stole items from the convenience store in front of the store clerk, shoved him and turned to make an intimidating pose. This young man was not innocent. While no one thinks an 18 year old deserves to die in the way he did, I wonder what went on in the car with the police officer?

    • allahu.snackbar

      Yes, he deserved what he got. He CHOSE that end. “Sorry, officer, we’ll get out of the street” were the simple words he needed to say that day to be alive the next. Instead, he attacked someone with a gun, and suffered the consequences even little kids know occur.

      • blhubbs

        I disagree that, “He “chose” that end” and that he deserved to die. I couldn’t disagree more. 18 year olds are not known for their maturity and good judgment. My heart goes out to his family and to all of the prejudice in our world against people of color, particularly black, young, men. My point was, that if you watch the video of MB in the convenience store, which I assume you haven’t, it is clear that Michael Brown blatantly walked out with stolen property as he shoved the clerk aside. He intimidated him, as if he were entitled to steal. Disagreeing with him being shot, does not negate my disagreement with his behavior in the store.

        • allahu.snackbar

          And there’s the problem: “all of the prejudice in our world against people of color, particularly black, young, men.”

          What if the “prejudice” is because they are trash thugs like Michael Brown? I’ve actually never met anyone who “hates” someone “for their skin color.” That is beyond stupid. I have met many who don’t like Blacks because of past interactions with Blacks.

          • kimmy

            Or perhaps we are told everyday that we are racist because someone who shares the same skin color as us owned slaves 150 years ago. Maybe we appear a racist society by some because we have to constantly defend ourselves against simply being white. This is the final straw for me, I can no longer sit back and be beaten by suggestions by people who claim I am racist, simply because I’m white and do not live in the hood. Well, I’m white because my parents are white, I don’t live in the hood because my parents are, well, parents. I am not, will not ever be, ashamed of my skin color! So I’m standing up to the black community (hispanics and Asians don’t seem to care) and taking back my pride!

          • allahu.snackbar

            Indeed, it is NOT a crime to be White. Nothing we’ve done “to the world” is any worse than what the non-White races have done (slavery, mass murder, etc.).

  • David

    Why release his record? It has nothing to do with the shooting. He is dead. Let this story die with him. Releasing his record will only give more life to this story.

    • Leonard Moon

      Leonard would like to see his record released to make sure he is ineligible and does NOT vote on Nov 4 if he did indeed have a felony conviction.
      It’s one thing to have dead people voting but dead felons voting is beyond the pale.
      Not even Al Franken’s vote counters and recounters and research recounters and Amazing Kreskin recounters up in MN would stoop that low. Maybe.

    • allahu.snackbar

      It will establish his “character” or lack thereof, and the probability of his mindset at the time justice was rendered to him.

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  • greggpf

    How about filing a lawsuit to get the officer involved to fill out an incident report?

    Oh right, an absence of one allows the officer and PD to make changes to their story and not be pinned down by a report.

    No wonder the Ferguson community and a growing number of folks in the US don’t trust the pd or process.

    • allahu.snackbar

      The “Ferguson community” DEMAND their civil right to commit crimes with impunity.

  • Reverend Bacon

    To “gotnews.com:” While I do support this initiative, it’s important to point out that the age of protection by the Juvenile courts ends in MO at 16. So he’d had over a year of chances to commit big-boy crimes and be arrested for same. Have you all looked for any recent arrests? Or are those also sealed?

    http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/structure_process/qa04101.asp

    • kimmy

      The only thing that makes sense is if there were an investigation in the works. I didn’t know about this 16 law, however I do know that murder committed at that age goes to adult court. Makes me wonder if we’re missing something here.

      • None of your Business

        From his own link it states the following:

        State statutes define which youth are under the original jurisdiction of the juvenile court. These definitions are based primarily on age criteria. In most States, the juvenile court has original jurisdiction over all youth charged with a criminal law violation who were below the age of 18 at the time of the offense, arrest, or referral to court. Many States have higher upper ages of juvenile court jurisdiction in status offense, abuse, neglect, or dependency matters – often through age 20.

    • None of your Business

      From your own link:

      State statutes define which youth are under the original jurisdiction of the juvenile court. These definitions are based primarily on age criteria. In most States, the juvenile court has original jurisdiction over all youth charged with a criminal law violation who were below the age of 18 at the time of the offense, arrest, or referral to court. Many States have higher upper ages of juvenile court jurisdiction in status offense, abuse, neglect, or dependency matters – often through age 20.

  • Bill Taylor

    why does the article LIE about the eye witness accounts please???? they are remarkable MATCHES with no real contradictions………..

    • topjkl

      I love the part where a smaller man grabs the much bigger taller man by the neck while he is sitting in a car and drags him down into his car window so he can fight over his own gun with the much bigger man

      • allahu.snackbar

        Darren “Mr. Fantastic” Wilson – his arms stretch to 20 feet.

        • Denis George Miller

          this has happened. a buddy of mine, a real cop, had to reach in a car and pull the driver out through the window with one arm when the driver gave him a really hard time. My buddy is a weight lifter by the way. And the idiot driver stopped giving my buddy a hard time instantly!

          • allahu.snackbar

            No, the reverse is what is claimed, i.e., Wilson supposedly grabbed Brown from inside the cruiser.

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  • Bill Taylor

    has the author reported the ILLEGAL release of info he claims 2 officers gave him please????? seems to me anybody desiring law and order would be forced to report this crime they claim to know about.

    • allahu.snackbar

      It’s called whistleblowing.

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  • jackmackenna

    You are a sick fuck.

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  • DenisetheCelt

    Get those records freed! Brown was a THUG. He attacked Officer Wilson! The truth will set us all free.

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  • h4x354x0r

    All sources anonymous and unconfirmed. Just “Some cops” word on it. Records have not been released yet, but you’re already telling us what’s in them? OK.

    I mean, that’s not actually OK, but… OK.

  • pryorSUCKS

    FUCK ALL NIGGERS

    • Leonard Moon

      Exhibit B of this paid plant

      • kimmy

        Looks like your point was well taken, lol

  • pryorSUCKS

    OFFICER WILSON DESERVES A MEDAL ! GOOD SHOOTING SIR ! ONE LESS PAVEMENT APE ! CELEBRATE !

    • Leonard Moon

      pryorSUCKS is strongly suspected to be a paid plant posting outrageous racist statements in a blatent attempt to slander as “racist” the website business of the plaintiff. His goal is to have people believe his site is logged onto by nothing other than racists, so, by extension, the plantiff and his motives are racist.
      He is the same type of paid plant that shows up at TEA Party rallies carrying racist placards, making racist statements so that other plants who ars his coworkers in on the con can get pictures to be distributed to the willing MSM, talked up, televised awith intent to slander the whole movement.

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  • BeefnBean

    Juvenile arrest records would indicate that the parents are lying about their “gentle giant” son. You suck at parenting and have given society a thug. Well now a dead thug. I hope you’re both sterilized.

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  • JoeThePimpernel

    The only reason anybody knows about Saint Charging Bull is because the Democrat plantation-owners need to whip their black slaves into a frenzy to get them to the voting booth in November.

    After November, we will never hear another word about Saint Charging Bull.

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  • Poindexter718

    “There are rumors that Brown was also a member of the Crips” Link goes to Twitter page that “does not exist” (much like yer credibility).

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  • javierlee

    I don’t suppose the police officers could have been lying and that the court denied a request for records that don’t exist. Or, perhaps Johnson was never told anything by any officer since they would lose their jobs over illegal disclosure. It would also probably be illegal for them to query for a record because they did not have the need to know unless they were the case investigators. The court would not be able to confirm or deny that such records existed if they indeed did exist. The email showed is a form letter response that doesn’t address existence of a record, because they can’t.

    Sounds to me like either the officers lied, or Johnson was never told anything about a juvenile record and is running a possibly career killing fishing expedition.The big question here is what does Johnson intend to accomplish here? Even if records exist and the charges are as stated, it has no bearing on the Wilson case.

    As for those police officers, if they really did run the query for an arrest record (the system would probably be NCIC or a local system), it’s just a matter of time before they’re busted because such queries record the office location and officer’s name making the request if it’s NCIC, and I’m pretty sure a local system would have a login system and record the user who made the query.

    • kimmy

      Explain why 2 days after an arrest the criminal gets a mailbox full of letters from lawyers? That would be because there is no privacy in criminal matters. IF there is a potential murder investigation, the case would also be in review for adult court, as most murderers are charged as adults. That can have 2 spins, either it’s a bogus rumor because it would likely be in adult court, or, the investigation is still pending, meaning Brown would only be a suspect and no one has access to pending murder investigations. He could have heard the rumor by someone in the police field, or perhaps a public defender?? I doubt anyone would lose their job though, especially if it’s true. You know anyone in law enforcement?

    • allahu.snackbar

      The video of him attacking the store employee established that the “gentle giant” was anything but gentle. That he was a thug before 18 is “highly likely.”

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  • Dot Dot Dot

    HA I just found out what tweet their broken link of a source for their “rumors” was–It was a picture of men in Crips colors and men in Blood colors united in Ferguson in support of justice for Michael Brown, shown midway down this article: http://wonkette.com/558729/was-michael-brown-a-murderer-well-have-you-proven-he-wasnt
    Apparently that qualifies as “evidence” that Michael Brown was a part of either gang.

    I will remember the name of this journalist and this trash mag and be sure not to give either garbage my attention in the future. Goodbye forever, Got”News.”

  • temptothetemp .

    I say this with absolute respect, but Michael Brown’s juvenile record has no bearing on the split second decision on the part of the officer who shot him. Brown could be wanted in 100 countries for mass murder, but if that were unknown to the officer at the time, that record is completely irrelevant and would not be admitted into court evidence anyway.

    • None of your Business

      If Brown was a known criminal to the police in that town, it could very well have had an impact on the officers split second decision to shoot. Ferguson is a small town. If he was known to be violent from past problems, even while a juvenile, it matters.

    • kimmy

      Yes, any criminal past will be relevant in court. As much as everyone on here argues whether or not it warrents his death, the fact is it will be introduced to establish character. A jury has the right to know if the boy was a criminal prior to this, because if so, it clearly defines his actions toward law

    • allahu.snackbar

      If the “gentle giant” was involved in second-degree murder, it most certainly has great bearing on what happened that day. Obviously he wasn’t “gentle,” or respecting of other people’s lives. It shows what sort of mind Michael Brown had: that of a rabid animal.

  • KucamongaKoonKiller

    Naggers gonna nag.

  • Doc Lemm

    Establishing a fake media personality icon, like Obama, it becomes necessary to hide the real personal records… Of course, now if you believe you deserve the truth about Brown, then a label like the “Birthers” will be created for you…

  • Sara

    God forbid — your children were ever gunned down by police. I seriously hope “journalists” so fervently hunt down their confidential records.

    • kimmy

      If the act has a potential affect on our future law enforcemeny, believe us all, they will. This attention can alter our lives forever. We may actually see a day when our law enforcement cannot arm themselves. Guess what, if that happens, the only thing that will protect you is prayer. Oh crap, that’s not allowed either. No God, no law, we’re in trouble!

    • allahu.snackbar

      My children don’t rob stores, and don’t attack cops. Highly unlikely they’ll be “gunned down by police.”

  • freewheelinfranklin543

    Do you care about the white people who are being gunned down by the police! Do you care about the little toddler who had half his face blown off by a SWAT teams flash bang.
    The officer didn’t call in the shooting for 43 minutes and supposedly he was injured. We now know he had a black eye and NO fractures in the bones of his face. The attorney for the convienience store in question says his people did not call in a strong armed robbery. According to the police chief of Ferguson his man did not know about any strong armed roberry at the time of the altercation with Mike Brown. The officer called Mike Brown and his friend over for jaywalking. According to Mike Brown’s friend,the officer grabbed this 280lbs kid around the neck through the car window. When Mike Brown tried to pull his head out of the headlock the officer pulled his gun and shot Mike Brown who hit the officer in the eye after he was shot and broke free with the officer still shooting. The autopsy report is damning to the officers story or lack thereof. 4 entrance wounds in Mike Brown’s arm and 2 inexplicable downward shots that killed him. One through the top of his head ranging downward no exit. The other blowing out Mike Brown’s eye ranging downward out his jaw and lodging in his collar bone. The 2 in the top and side of the head could have only come when the man was down prone or on his knees. There is an audio recording of the shooting which has now been authenticated showing 7 shots in rapid succession,someone saying you are so pretty and then 4 more shots!
    This was a very bad shooting by any standards, This officer violated every rule in the book. Especially having no backup when he tangled with a 280 lbs. kid! By the way the report on the shooting was not completely filled out ie no details which is a violation of Missouri law!
    Even if this kid has a horrible juvenile record it makes no difference legally. You can’t shoot people for jaywalking. Ferguson city and PD now have a 40 million dollar lawsuit against it because of the bad judgement shown by this officer. Not to mention riots!

    • allahu.snackbar

      Only the stupid believe for a second the “grabbed him by the neck from the cruiser window” tale; was Wilson Mr. Fantastic with stretchable arms? The “he be shot in da back” LIES in compariosn to the family-directed autopsy are pretty funny, too. And how did Darren Wilson get a black eye if the “gentle giant” was “running away” from the cop? Don’t bother with your standard “you be a racist!” bullsh** since that doesn’t work anymore.

    • allahu.snackbar

      Oh, about that “the convenience store owner said his employees didn’t call in the robbery,” then WHO DID? Much more likely is the store owner LIED to protect himself, his employees, and his store from being destroyed by the raging animals. Remember how they painted “SNITCH” on the other convenience store?

  • Wally Anderson

    Why come I don’t hear any wealthy negroes Oprah, Jordan, other black millionaires helping their ancestors in Africa with this Ebola epidemic. It would be wonderful to get these people helping their own-telling all the white medical professionals to bug out and let them take over and help their own people. Wishful thinking ….

    • kimmy

      Very good point. These wealthy black people spend more time and money trying to separate themselves from black communities in America while at the same time claiming their strong African background. Most have never lived in Africa, and wouldn’t live there because they prefer American money over herritage. That mentality is not limited to the wealther either, it is shared by many, no matter how small the fortune. The truth is, blacks have no more reason to argue than anyone else in this country. All of our ancestors came over on a boat, and all were foreigners. Very few were welcome in America, and many were mistreated. For people to be so upset about slavery is ludicrous, because it no longer exists and no one in this country has been affected by it. For people to cry out racism only brings negative attention to their race, it makes them appear hostile and unaccepting of our laws. If black people feel they are judged by their skin color, it’s because they are insisting on it. They continue to ask for recognition of an injustice that happened in another lifetime, and insist on accommodations to make up for the past. It is a double standard, how can someone ask to be recognized for their ethnicity, and at the same time claim to be treated differently because of it? The answer is very simple, it’s because no one has had the audacity to put a stop to these things out of fear of a lawsuit. Someone needs to get control of the ACLU, and put a stop to radicals like Sharpton ond his kind. In my opinion, it’s just shy of herecy.

  • Tosheba

    The Black community is clearly nothing but racial hypocrites.

  • Defiant

    It’s always the same story…cover up…lies…and a Liberal narrative. At least we finally get the truth about Brown (that he was an evil, murderous thug)…

  • Walter Malone

    I’ve been very accurate with my predictions of what new information will be released to the public so far since this case started. From the day they reported that Michael Brown doesn’t have a criminal record as an adult, I told myself of course he’s not going to, he’s only 18. I been curious about his juvenile record too. I’m assuming that he does have charges as a juvenile, but it might not be murder or at least officially. It might have started out as a murder charge but was lowered to something else such as aggravated assult. (Or something similar) The reason why I think that is because murder charges take a lot of time to be reviewed by the DA to be considered to be lowered or stay as a murder charge. Then you also have to be arraigned and wait for your court date. Then a smart thing his lawyer would have done is ask to push his court date back several times until the judge notice he’s about to turn 18 if he was tried as a juvenile. If adult we would know of course. Maybe he was just a suspect in a murder case, and there’s always accessory. If the records get release we would know more details and reports what happen in his youth. I’m sure he has some simple battery on there at least. He robbed a store and that wasn’t the first time he done something like that because he did it so casually. Another thing that bugs me is no one has mentioned his mindset. That has a lot to do with his altercation with the police officer. He just robbed a store a few minutes ago before he got shot so what do you think his mindset would be like??? I know my blood would be flowing and paranoid if a cop pulled up. Well, that’s just my opinion and we’ll know soon if I’m right again or not.

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  • dboiwow

    The more comments I read the more I realize that most whites understand racism about as well as a man explaining the pain a woman feels during her menstraul cycle lol……

    • kimmy

      I understand that I can’t comment that a black man is good looking, or that my child wanted to be a rapper, or that someone lives in the ghetto without being called racist. In regards to a womans pain during menstruarion speaks vollumes, lol. We use that excuse to get out of house work and sex. Funny how that works, huh

    • allahu.snackbar

      “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-White.

      The White people of Rhodesia and South Africa know all about racism…the anti-White kind. So do many of us in the United States who have had to deal with “gentle giants” like Mikey Brown.

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  • Mikey John

    Enough of this FRN.

  • GusPhilpott

    Have you been able to identify the person whom Michael Brown allegedly killed? That record should be in the public record. The family of Michael Brown should know of any juvenile criminal record, charges and gang membership of Michael. Perhaps Attorney Crump will confirm or deny. Yeah, sure. Like he’ll tell the truth about everything else. How about the juvie or adult criminal history, if any, of Dorian Johnson. Got that yet?

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  • Amercan111

    What ever happened to Tawana Brawley?

    • kimmy

      I believe she has a long time garnishment ahead of her. She was sued and ordered to pay something like $180,000. Cochran bailed Sharpton out by paying his off. Broke ass bitch. None of them ass holes offered to pay any of Brawley’s, they simply turned their backs even though evidence showed that they were involved in the lie.

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  • Tbone

    What about Darren Wilsons juvenile record? Wouldn’t that also be relevant?

  • flyleaf

    i hate police brutality and it is out of control but this is just an example of the jewish rate baiting media hyping up a story with lies and ignoring the facts

    • kimmy

      Jewish?

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  • Nelson Nolan

    What I totally find to be the funniest about all this is so many people claim they are here because Michael Brown is innocent, because they are moron’s, because they live in fantasy land while they are high on their drugs, however a good majority of the conversation seems to be twisted about things that don’t have a damn thing to do with Officer Wilson and Michael Brown.
    We all know that this wasn’t a racist crime the facts show it was self-defense. We all know that Michael Brown was a criminal who wasn’t going back to jail and decided to assault a Police Officer in which he put that Officer in fear of his life and wound up getting killed. We all know that the only crime that was committed was by Michael Brown who was obviously on a crime spree, (Robbing a store, assaulting a cop, trying to take a cop’s gun, trying to charge a cop).
    To be honest this whole conversation wouldn’t be going on if we didn’t have moron’s that couldn’t accept fact. Now if we were so racist, if racism was so alive and well, if there were so many racist’s don’t you think all these moron’s would simply be executed sparing the rest of the country from their stupidity? Unfortunately these crack heads are allowed to continue on about how Michael Brown is so innocent, how Officer Wilson is a murderer, etc…
    This shows that racism really isn’t as alive as they make it out to be. Yes there are racist low-life’s out there, yes they should be charged and put in jail, however don’t come across blaming everyone of racism because of what these low-life’s say or do. Instead of adding to the problem, do something about the problem, instead of whining and crying and making drama out of just anything you can, put your time into pushing for a law that will allow those that use racism to be arrested and charged and put away for years for the hatred they hold inside them, that would be true justice.
    Instead you sit here and whine and cry and you cry wolf on a case that clearly wasn’t racially motivated and was clearly a self-defense (As shown by all the facts). This is why shit don’t get done and hasn’t ever gotten done, you spend your time instigating fake ass bull shit then you cry and cry and cry. Instead of sitting in the corner crying when things don’t go your way, get up off your lazy ass and do something about it for real, make racism against the law.

    • kimmy

      A big problem in our society is what is handed down. When children live in poverty, like it or not, at some point they will question why that is. Some people choose to live in poverty, because it’s easier, however, that is not the answer they will give their children. They will blame someone else. I’m afraid some black childen believe they grew up in poverty simply because they’re black, since that’s what they were told. So now you have a second generation (probably more) believing white people don’t want them to succeed. This logic is not limited to black people either, dead beat parents blame their ex-spouse, drug addicts blame past experience. Again, this gets passed on to the children. If a child is told they’re poor because their father (or mother) don’t pay to help support them, then they honestly believe they have something to do with it. When white people live in poverty, they lay blame elsewhere as easily as any race, they just don’t use race as an excuse. They still breed hate within their children, it is just not as easily focused, there are simply no real solid ones for them to make stick. It is much easier for other races to focuse on their color being a reason, well, because it seams so obvious. It’s time for all parents, black, white, hispanic and every color out there to start leading by example. Don’t expect excuses from your children, and start by not offering any for them to build on. Our country, yes OURS is in turmoil. We have to bring it back together, and stop letting our children grow up as drug addicts, dead beats, thugs and disrespectful. If anyone wants this country to be a great place to live, you have to provide a much better investment! Your children are your only investments!

      • Nelson Nolan

        I agree with you there, the biggest problem with criminals is when they go to jail it’s always because of the Police Officer, or someone else such as the victim, it’s never because they actually did something wrong. Until you take responsibility for your own actions, you will never succeed and that’s what is sad about all of this. This case has only shown how many pathetic losers there really are out there.
        http://www.facebook.com/officerdarrenwilsonferguson

        • kimmy

          I soo agree. I know there are people that truly feel like Mr Brown’s death was way too far, and I really can see their point. He was a young man, and with youth anything in life is possible. But the hate they have for officer Wilson will only make this case seem worse. This is not something any parent wants, ever, so rather than put all blame on the officer, we should all point out exactly what events in this case could have easily stopped this from happening. It’s time to parent, not protest!

          • Nelson Nolan

            I used to be a criminal myself, I used to blame everyone else for why I went to jail. It wasn’t until I took responsibility for my own actions that I stopped going to jail. 12 years ago I hated cops, I hated anyone that had anything to do with putting me in jail, from the ages 15 – 22 I had no respect at all for law enforcement. However at 22 I realized I needed to start doing something with my life & realized the cops were just people like me doing their job that they are paid to do. Since then I’ve seen a big difference in the way that cops treat me & it’s amazing. I have been unarmed held at gunpoint by a black officer, even after I clearly showed him that I was unarmed, I didn’t cry racism. I’ve been robbed at gunpoint working graveyard at a gas station by 2 black guys, I didn’t cry racism. May 17th, 2003 my drink was spiked, I was jumped, beaten, & thrown out a 3 story window by 8 – 10 black guys & was pronounced D.O.A. I didn’t cry racism & even forgave the main person who is a friend to this day, in fact I just wrote him happy birthday earlier today. God created all of us equal & he loves us all the same. God is the reason I forgave the guys that jumped me & killed me. If you can’t forgive you will not be forgiven as is written in the bible.

          • kimmy

            It wouldn’t do anyone any good to care about color today. Our children do not know color, so our grandchildren may very likely be any nationality or color. To be honest, my sons black friends are far better off than most of his white friends, now that they’re grown. The difference in them is, the black kids came from hard working homes, and did not run the streets. Some of the white kids came from broken homes, and blaming the absent parent. Oh sure, good and bad is not color specific, it really has to do with parenting. I’m not perfect, I started very very young, but I made it. Hell, my son is now over half my age, lol. He’s white, my choice, but it’s not because in my town there weren’t plenty of well off nice looking black guys, they all just prefered pretty black girls, lol.

          • kimmy

            And I was seriously holding out for Nelly for a while, lol

    • kimmy

      I just want to add one thing. We (every parent) can start here. Whether we believe this shooting was wrong or justified, we cannot (any of us) ignore the fact that Mr Brown was heading in a very wrong direction. We should point out to our children, although it is a very sad case, and a young man lost his life, there are many things Mr Brown could have done differently that would have prevented this. We need to tell our children that poverty stricken areas are unsafe, and hard work will allow them to live in a less violent community. There are famous people out there talking about this tragedy with their children, and posting comments to social media. These people have a fan base that knows no color, so I pray they too do the right thing and point out the unfortunate events that led up to this. To those famous people, Nelly, Snoop Dogg, Mr President, you put yourselves in the shoes of Mr Brown’s parents, do the right thing and put yourselves in Mr Wilson’s parent’s shoes too. In the end, you would prefer your children on the right end of the law, period. PS, I bought my son’s first Nelly CD, not him. I bought my son’s cloths when he was younger, my white son’s Echo shirts and SnoopDogg clothing. Please, speak to my children too! Let them all know that life is what you make it and people are judged by their behaviour.

      • Nelson Nolan

        Nelly is one of my favorite singers, however Tupac Amaru Shakur will always be my favorite rapper and no-one will ever replace him period. I don’t judge people by their color, but by their actions, the way they treat me. I’ve got friends of all colors and I believe in God. We are all God’s children, sadly though our country is only turning away from God. All these people so concerned with Michael Brown, they claim they go to church, they claim they believe in God, yet they damn sure show they have no faith or trust in God by the posts they have made. If they had any trust in God, they wouldn’t have ever jumped to the assumption Officer Wilson was guilty protesting etc… instead they would have prayed and put the matter in God’s hands knowing that in the end, we all face God and he will judge us, he sees everything and nothing is candy coated and you can’t hide nothing from him. I did my research long before I decided that Michael Brown was the punk and Officer Wilson was innocent. Most just opened their mouths but did no research at all.

        • kimmy

          Like wise. At first I really couldn’t understand why this officer killed Mr Brown. It wasn’t until I saw a lot of evidence, and heard the retractions from the other man involved, that I understood why the officer shot him. I was pretty sided with Brown for a couple of days, then I started seeing more and more (plus I know few people with facts on the case) then I just blamed everyone else for letting this young man down. So many people in his life yet nobody was very concerned about where he was heading. With the case he has pending, people really should have been more involved with what he was doing. They should have known by that case that he was heading down the wrong path. As far as I know, there is no ‘murder’ charge, however, there is reason to believe he has access to firearms. Instead, they hold up a sign that says ‘ my unarmed son was executed by police’. Why don’t they hold up a sign that says ‘my baby cried out for help by turning to drugs and violence, and I ignored him’.

        • kimmy

          PS, I love love love Nelly. Saw him in St Louis when he first started out, got some beads from that show! Next thing I know, pow, I’m buying my son his CD. That was way back in the day, like 97 or something, lol. I was still young enough to dance, my husband was still young enough to stay up past 10.

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  • lxxxvc

    If reality doesn’t conform to your bigotry, then sue! That’s sure to work.

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  • kimmy

    ”There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs…I am afraid that there is a certain class of race problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public. “”“ Booker T. Washington

    • kimmy

      #notsosharpton

  • David Saint

    Johnson, you truly are a worthless Piece of you know what..I think im going to start looking into your juvenile records, since after all fair is fair..the Brown family should know who is trying to assassinate their sons character and who is trying to justify an unarmed 18 year old being shot 6 + times before you have any evidence. the term coward doesnt even quite cover how to describe you..but desperate does come close

  • blehblehbleh

    I’d like to take a minute to give thanks for the great contributions
    that the Black community has made to our society. First off is their
    peaceful and generous nature that make them ideal neighbors, lending
    testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills
    unrivaled by any other culture we know. I might add also their
    commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an
    example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. And less we
    forget about the real estate values that are fueled by the mix of
    African Americans into an area due to their caring, kind, and respectful
    nature of these communities. This is an example of all they have
    achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a
    self-reliant can-do nature. Without their industrious and creative
    drive, we would be much poorer as a nation.,,,,

  • Marcy Brown

    Ok, so we know that Michael Brown was not convicted of a class A or B felony. So what do class C and D felonies look like? According to criminal defense lawyer dot com, Class C felonies can include involuntary manslaughter in the first degree (can be a Class B or Class C felony), statutory rape in the second degree, possession of a controlled substance, and theft. Class D felonies are crimes such as fraud, resisting arrest, and passing a bad check. So which one was he convicted of?

  • Lisa Applebee

    They don’t want to release the records because that will go against their ‘race war’ agenda. If Black folks knew he was a criminal, they’d stop marching the same day. Painting him as a gentle giant makes for better dissension and white vs black tensions. Why do you think they just called Martial Law a State of Emergency? Releasing a white teens records aren’t going to start a war against races. That’s just a fact.

  • NOgo

    WHERE THE F IS THE UPDATE ON THIS, DID YOU GET THE RECORD OR NOT, WHY THE F DID YOU NOT UPDATE THE PUBLIC ON THIS????

  • DeathMerchant

    Ferguson is but a taste of things to come. This has been brewing since the emancipation proclamation. Even Lincoln realized that this would lead to what we see today which is why he strongly considered repatriation. This is a failed experiment in diversity of race and culture and everyone will pay for the transgressions of our forefathers. Too bad we can’t dig them up and slap them for what they did. The people that run things understand this all too well and this explains the distraction of immigration and the militarization of the police. Martial law at some point is inevitable.