A previous version of the article misidentified Lee Blair as a Cochran county chair. He was a field rep. Gotnews.com regrets the error.
Lee Blair interview confirms Gotnews.com reporting about illegal cash used in Cochran campaign and the difficulty of keeping tabs on all the money. Blair, who formerly worked as a Cochran chair for DeSoto County, is coming clean with what he saw.
Blair’s reporting confirms previous accounts of massive amounts of cash going to young staffers like communications staffer Amanda Shook, who Blair says the Cochran campaign “threw under the bus.”
Lee Blair, the former DeSoto County field rep for Cochran who was arrested for destroying McDaniel signs, is coming clean with the massive amounts of cash flowing into the race, the controversial involvement of David Clanton, an individual in trouble for USDA fraud, and Barbara Kendrick. He also sheds light on what the campaign heard from Austin and Henry Barbour.
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The phone call took place in the days after the runoff election. It is a transcript made of a phone call recorded by Johnson. The transcript has been done by volunteers and confirmed by professional stenographers.
Here is a transcript of that conversation after Blair describes his arrest several days before the runoff election on June 24th. Blair initially wanted the conversation to be off the record but given his professed disgust at the process now wants it to be public.
Transcript of phone conversation with Lee Blair:
Lee Blair: I didn’t hear any problems with that…we got a list of about 25 names of people that wanted yard signs in their yard. Cause it was (unintelligible) …so I load up these signs you know one of took them to one city and another one took them to another city. So we took them and we went and we started putting these sings in these people’s yards. Well, I caught as woman she was getting her mail, well, I had her name and I called her by her name and I said “I’m here to deliver your yard sign” and she said “I don’t know what your talking about”. And I said “well it’s from ya know Thad Cochran from Mississippi” and she said “I tell ya I don’t put yard signs in my yard unless I personally know the person”. I said “oh ok so you don’t you didn’t sign up for this yard sign?” She said “no sir, I didn’t”. So then I (chuckle) then I had to go back and find out if the people I’d put yard signs in their yard if they really wanted one or not. We also got a list of 10 names of volunteers and and these were people that they said had volunteered for the campaign. Two of the names on there I knew personally and so I called the woman and I said “I understand you signed up to volunteer for the Thad Cochran campaign. She said “well I’ll be happy to but I didn’t sign up for anything”. And this woman does not have an internet, ugh, she’s an older woman she doesn’t do email, she doesn’t she doesn’t do any of that stuff. Doesn’t own a computer. Ugh and so I don’t know where they got the (unintelligible). But then they and then they would change ugh umm walking systems. The did this umm thing for the the national umm the Republican National Senatorial Committee or that group. NRSC came in and they had a packet it was it was a map of a neighborhood and it had identified likely voters of Thad Cochran. Well, when you go to these places half the time the people that were on them, the name on the list were not the people that lived there anymore. Come to find out these things were 8 years old. Well this is a very transient community. People move all over the place. Umm it just it was just so mismanaged and you know we are not talking about rocket surgery here. And you know you you get your your door hangers and you go and you knock on the door and you hand them the card. It’s not like it it after that system didn’t work they come up with this whole thing where you gotta do it on your smart phone. And it was the it was the silliest thing and I and you know a lot of this was I think they were trying to test market stuff for the presidential campaign to see how it all worked well none of it worked. And it and it was like they kept going back to the drawing board. It was well that didn’t work let’s try something else. You know and I even made a comment to Barbour or Watson (?) one of them you know for a campaign that wants to be so tech savy their internet their web page looked like it was designed in 1999. I mean you know it was just they focused on things that didn’t matter. And they were always reacting it was always a reaction. Well Chris McDaniel said this so we’re gonna say that. Ah it it just astounds me and you you talk to one person in Jackson and they say do one thing and you talk to somebody else and they say do something else. You had you had three people that were supposed to be in charge of grassroots and all of them had a different opinion of how it’s supposed to be done.
Interviewer: And when did it when did it become clear that they were going to start using Black votes of Democrats to win?
Blair: Well, the only email that I got pertained to that basically said we are not doing that. And that was from Austin Barbour.
Interviewer: Really? Well I would love ( interruption: yea but) I would love a copy of that email.
Blair: Well I probably still have it let me let me I’ll go up to my computer and look. Ah you know my whole thing about this is they they thought if Thad ran they would avoid a bloodbath in the Republican Party. Well guess, what that didn’t work. Ah they treated him like he was a child, I mean they really did it was a the optics (?) were horrible. When you have somebody say “now now step over here Senator” it it was just they treated him like a toddler.
Interviewer: and do you think it’s because, there are rumors about him being demented do you think that’s why?
Blair: I don’t think so the conversations I had with him were he was he was on his game. Um but you know you know it’s just I didn’t spend a lot of time with him but I mean ah it’s it’s ya know I don’t know it’s just at this point you know hind sight is 20/20. So at this point I don’t know. You know I, I feel like that his mind is sharp I think maybe his maybe his body is not up to the challenge. Um you know I think he’s I think he’s tired but you know he’s he’s 76 years old. (Unintelligible) ….that’s 77 plays tennis everyday so you know who knows?
Interviewer: yea, what do you think should be done in Mississippi with the Senate race?
Blair: Right now I think Chris McDaniel needs to concede. Umm
Interviewer: and why do you say that?
Blair: Unless, now let me qualify that, unless unless they actually find the votes. You know unless there unless there really is something there because no one, I don’t care who it is, should be able to steal an election.
Interviewer: right so if they have the votes and I mean I’ve talked to them and they say they have the votes, um, what’s your sense, I mean um if they have the votes you think what? There should be what? a special election?
Blair: I’m gonna tell ya my sense of this is if he my sense of this is this needs to end sooner rather than later because all Travis Childers is doing is kicking back in his recliner at home laughing his butt off. And he’s and he’s the only one that looks like the adult in the room. You know ..I..I…ee you know Chris McDaniel can say all the stuff he wants, do all this stuff because he’s trying to challenge the election. Well, but the Cochran team comes out and just baits him it looks it it looks horrible. I mean you know if if Cochran won and they truly believe he won then what difference does it make? In the immoral word of Hillary Clinton what difference does it make? Why continue to respond? Why be so reactionary?
Interviewer: well I spoke to Chris McDaniel and he says, he says the election was stolen from him. He says he’s got the votes to show it. And he says that he’s going to continue to fight the corruption and get the you know make sure that everyone who did the bad thing is punished. Um and that he’s going to peruse it as long as possible, um, as long actually until justice is done the phrase he used. Um now obviously your on the other side of that and I’m just telling you what he told me and you know from what I can tell the the evidence is pretty compelling that the election there was certainly a whole lot of strange stuff going on and I think you alluded to that with some of the cash that’s flowing around. Um you know there was a lot of just..
Interruption: Well I think you know I think the entire I think the entire thing was, I mean, the whole election was bizarre. It it was ( unintelligible) let me think (stutter) I just think this was the…stutter..and .. Says that the McDaniel campaign was run just as poorly. You know I don’t know the main guys almost (unintelligible) DeSoto County. So you know I..I…I…I..I..think um I’m surprised I guess that DeSoto was so overwhelmingly for Chris McDaniel and then other counties were not. I mean you look at ok for example Tunica County which is right south of us, you know Thad won that county. Well they get the same press we do they see the same ads on television I don’t know if you know the Thad campaign spent more money on mail outs down there. I know they didn’t in DeSoto County. Ah they they bought up very little television. But you know every, you know, if you’ve got um um Dish or Direct TV or or (unintelligible) you know all of (unintelligible) same thing Tunica. It it to me it was so bizarre that that it was.. you know that the poll totals were not more similar. Now, you know I mean Chris spent some time in DeSoto County. But but not not enough to offset that I don’t think.
Blair: And the only thing only thing I can come to mind is is that they didn’t run the right Thad’s team didn’t run the right campaign because the the median age in DeSoto County is 37 years old. You know I guarantee ya 50% of the people that live here now did not live here 6 years ago.
Interviewer: right they’re all coming from Memphis. They’re all Memphis refugees.
Blair: Right right. So, you know they don’t know who Thad Cochran is.
Interviewer: right right now but you were so you were saying earlier. Tell me more about David Clanton.
Blair: Well, David Clanton was you know I think you know and I may be wrong about this you know. I really think David’s David’s ah David’s background is on the coast. I’m sorry I got all these fans in here (unintelligible) that’s where his that’s where he spent the majority of his political life. But I think what he does is he contracts like he has a sign printing company you know. And uh you know I think it’s kinda like (unintelligible) you get all this stuff with it uh and I don’t know but I mean if that’s the case and I’m sure you can find that out, but if that’s the case that’s kind of an incestuous relationship because the guy the guy that’s supposed to be running your supply chain for the entire state is the one that’s supplying it. How you gonna, uh how you gonna come back and say, well David’s uh you know fire that printer when David’s the printer?
Interviewer: say that again, I’m not sure I understand that say that say that a different way what are you what are you saying?
Blair: Well ok if I’m if I’m the uh if I’m the supply the head of supply for the Cochran campaign and and there’s not enough signs in the delta ah you know I can’t call the sign company and say we don’t have enough signs in the delta when I’m the sign company, you see what he owns the sign company that prints the signs. And then find out we don’t have enough signs here well how do you get rid of your sign company and get a new sign company? How do you pay somebody to be on your staff but you’re also buying all your stuff from ’em?
Interviewer: right it’s kind of a conflict of interest.
Interviewer: now now David Clanton went to jail right for ah fraud or for something. Um
Blair: Well that’s news to me. I didn’t know that.
Interviewer: you didn’t know that? Ok he went to jail for USDA fraud. Um
Interviewer: and you’re you’re saying that he was the head of of what of basically you need anything done on the campaign. I mean, what did you say earlier you need anything done on the campaign you call David Clanton?
Blair: Well if you need anything, you know if you needed,well primarily money, but if you needed signs or you needed ah push cards or he was the supply person. So ah and he was also the logistics person. He was the one that would figure out how to get it from point A to point B. And typically it usually went went to about D before it got to where it was supposed to go. It it was so mismanaged, it was not that hard to to get a sign from Jackson to DeSoto County. It shouldn’t take that, it shouldn’t take that long. It shouldn’t have to go through Oxford and all these other places. And you know send send this sign over to these folks cause they need one. It was just horribly mismanaged.
Interviewer: and what do you um who is this guy Watson you were telling me about earlier?
Blair: Watson Horner(?) he’s the field rep for DeSoto County. And then after the primary they moved him back to Oxford. And how is Watson (unintelligible) Watson was a fraternity brother of Austin Barbour’s. (Unintelligible) that was about his only qualification he had never worked on a campaign before.
Interviewer: and what is what is your sense of Austin Barbour?
Blair: Well, (long chuckle) He’s Jeppie’s son I guess.
Interviewer: what’s that? I didn’t hear that.
Blair: I guess he’s Jeppie’s son. Ya know I mean uh I remember I had a one brief conversation with Austin. When Thad was in DeSoto County and ya know he he seemed like a nice enough guy but the stuff I’ve seen on TV and read I mean my lord the man the man, as my grandfather used to say, has diarrhea of the mouth. Just shut up
Interviewer: the man has what?
Blair: It’s an old country saying diarrhea of the mouth.
Interviewer: yea. So you think he should just shut up.
Interviewer: and what is he ah what is has he said that you think is stupid?
Blair: Well I mean all the back and forth with the McDaniel campaign especially after the election. You know if if if I guess they don’t want to be trumped in the media but at this point they are. I mean you know if they’re confident that they won and they have the vote then what difference does it make? What difference does it make what Chris McDaniel does? If Chris McDaniel wants to put billboards across the state on every major interstate what difference does it make? If Thad Cochran won the election and they truly believe that what difference does it make what he says? You know that that’s what I’m saying they make um both of ’em uh it’s like a kiddie show and Travis Childers is the only adult.
Interviewer: right right so
Blair: ‘Cause he’s smart enough to stay out of it.
Interviewer: right I see what you’re saying. So you’re saying basically politically Travis Childers looks is starting to look good every day this fight kinda drags on.
Blair: Absolutely. The longer this goes on the worse it’s gonna be for the Republican Party in Mississippi. And and this is what they were trying to avoid by getting Thad Cochran to run again. They wanted to avoid a bloodbath because if you’d gotten Delbert Hoseman in there and Tate Reeves and Greg Harper and they would just tear each other apart well you know what? It’s been done now.
Interviewer: and do you think…
Blair: They’ve taken one of the most respected politicians in the country and turned him into a cartoon character.
Blair: And I’m not saying, when I say they I’m not just saying Chris McDaniel’s folks I’m saying both sides.
Interviewer: do you think it probably would have been better if Cochran had stepped down instead of running?
Blair: Ah well at this point, yeah. At this point I do. Because now if you’s asked me that 8 months ago I would’ve said no.
Interviewer: what do you think what do you think’s going on with Cochran right now?
Blair: Oh he’s probably happy they’re not putting him on that bus every 15 minutes. I think that he’s I guess he’s back in Washington. I don’t know.
Interviewer: I went to his house yesterday and it didn’t look like anyone had been there for awhile in Washington.
Blair: Yea well, I don’t know. Of course I’m not int that loop ya know. Ha
Interviewer: no thank goodness, right? Umm well what is your sense about Henry Barbour?
Blair: I don’t know Henry, I never met him. Ah the only brief contact I’ve had with Henry was he uh he wrote a nasty email to Heather Fox and had the misfortune of copying me on it. And I told him that ah he could disagree all he wants to with what she said but he doesn’t need to be rude. Is basically what I said.
Interviewer: well what do you …
Blair: and he apologized to me I said you’re apologizing to the wrong person you weren’t rude to me.
Interviewer: what do you think’s going on though I mean we’ve got all these ads that have come out that are basically scaring black folks ads, robocalls, flyers ah..
Blair: You know I heard that Robocall and I don’t know I don’t know where it came from and I don’t know who put it out ah but the thing is I had a guy call me one night about 2 or 3 days before the elections. And uh I tell you what it was the Friday before the election. And uh and he was a black guy. And he told me that he was gonna vote for Thad Cochran because of all he’s done to help black colleges. And I said ok that’s great..but he said but I’m a democrat. I said well ok you know did you vote in the democrat primary. He said no I did not so I can vote, right? I said yes you can vote. And he said can you get me some campaign literature? And I said well I said I will pass your request along because I don’t you know if if you’re gonna go out an court democrat votes I think that looks worse than getting the votes. You know at the same time anybody can vote uh and uh he said that’s ok he would talk to Donnie (?) Chandler. I don’t know if the man the man ever got stuff from Donnie (?) or not. Never heard from him again, but ah you ,know if there was if there was a movement on to recruit actively recruit democrats especially black democrats to vote for Thad Cochran I did not hear about it. Now that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen but I didn’t hear about it.
Interviewer: now it seems like that happened in the delta and a few other places where there are a lot more black folks that DeSoto County um what is your sense I mean..
Blair: So you know a lot of a lot of the black folks here are more conservative. Ah you know if they were if they were if they were ultra liberal they still live in Memphis.
Interviewer: I see
Blair: You know the population in DeSoto County is typically more educated than the delta but I mean it’s more urbane it’s not it’s a um the vast majority of people have professional jobs and work in Memphis. They don’t they don’t work on the farm or you know..I don’t want to be stereotypical but that’s kinda the way it is.
Interviewer: right right right no I hear you umm and you know it is what it is, right?
So um you know what you could do is if you’d send me send me that email that Barbour sent and I’d like to know a little bit more about the cash situation I mean you’re telling me that basically folks were walking around with this guy Waston Burr is it how do you spell that?
Blair: Watson Horner Watson that’s like Sherlock Holmes Watson.
Interviewer: got it. And then Hern like Hern?
Blair: Uh Horner Horner H O R N E R
Interviewer: got it Watson Horner and you’re saying that he was..he’s just walking around with cash in envelopes paying volunteers.
Interviewer: now did…
Blair: I can I can I can get you a volunteer to talk to.
Interviewer: oh I’d love to talk to a volunteer. Now did they, I mean if you get cash from somebody you’re on the hook with the IRS, right I mean umm
Blair: Well see that’s just it. They should’ve reported you know what ah what ah people were getting you know I (stutter) I after the primary I wrote down you know their name the amount of money address occupation all that because that’s I know that’s part of it. Because they want to make sure that um you know like down at the coast you know if you had if you’ve got um ah Engall’s if 90% of your volunteers were coming from Engalls you know that that’s that’s a red flag. Well, I I I , you know everything should’ve been documented like that but now I now I Watson said he was doing it but I I mean after the election these emails and I may still have that email you know from Amanda.
Interviewer: and what did Amanda say in the email?
Blair: Uhhhh basically that people start need to start making sure that this stuff was reported accurately.
Interviewer: so were they not making sure it was accurate beforehand or what was going on?
Blair: Here’s the note from Austin Barbour:
All of you are working tirelessly everyday to do all you can to meet with the voters throughout the state to educated them on Thad Cochran and his conservative record. Since this runoff election began our volunteers have knocked on …it goes on and on and on. If anyone asks about Busby (unintelligible) campaign the McDaniel campaign or any other group involved on each side of this election you need to emphatically state that our campaign believes in hard work and that’s what we are doing. And if we hear about any type of vote buying we will immediately report it to the Secretary of State and local officials. These rumors should infuriate us, they certainly do me and that should be your tone if asked about this. It infuriates because of how hard our team and volunteers are working to make sure Senator Cochran wins on June 24.
Interviewer: now obviously if you were running around with cash that’s a huge opportunity to buy votes, right?
Blair: Well..ostensively it’s to pay volunteers. Now the thing is once you get that money and you can do basically whatever you want I guess.
Interviewer: what can you do
Balir: I mean unless well unless uh you know the the paperwork to me the the paperwork they should be able to put their hands on every piece of paperwork there is. You know they should have a listing of every cent that was handed to somebody. But evidently they do not again. If if if you documented it the right way on the form that they said ah then it should be ok. But nowhere on this..I had the people initial it. But no where on the form did it have a place for them to initial it. So I could write down I gave I gave Charles Johnson $100 today because to help walk neighborhoods. And I can I can get your name and address out of the phone book and ah you know if I know where you live and you work that’s all I need.
Blair: And then I can take that $100 it in my pocket. I mean you know (stutter) unless the campaign contacts you and says did you receive $100 from Lee Blair (?) ? Well naw I don’t know what you’re talking about well you know they’re not gonna do that. We talking about.. We’re not talking about a few hundred bucks we’re talking about 10’s of thousands of dollars.
Interviewer: and so what’s your sense of what actually happened?
Blair: Well here it was to pay volunteers. You know, somewhere else I don’t know. And that’s just it nobody knows I guess.
Interviewer: then what is your…
Blair: If nobody knows where the money is then anything’s possible.
Interviewer: right and what is your, I mean do you think it’s possible that people bought votes in this election?
Blair: I would be surprised if that I would be surprised it that happened ah um I I expect (suspect?) that really would surprise me. And I say that because um I I don’t think they’re smart enough to get away with it.
Blair: Of course you know you may uncover something they may not be. Just just because of my dealings with the campaign I just was not impressed with the overall implement and if we talking if you undertake something like this and have it not get out you know come out some way or another then you’ve gotta be pretty smart. You gotta be pretty devious too but you gotta be pretty smart.
Interviewer: so you’re saying because the campaign was run so poorly they might they might have just been um there’s no way you could have something like this mass voter fraud.
Blair: I I I would be surprised if that were the case.
Interviewer: but couldn’t you flip that around and say maybe the reason they’re so bad at getting out the vote and doing everything competently is because …
Blair: They’re so busy doing something else??? Big laugh
Interviewer: yea they were busy doing something else. They’re throwing cash around, right?
Blair: Huge laugh you know, Charles, I guess anything is possible.
Interviewer: yea fair enough
Blair: You know I mean I know it didn’t happen in DeSoto County. Ah because because you know and this is off the record all this is off the record with you background and stuff but ah ah you know this is going to sound horrible Barbour and Watson aren’t smart enough to pull something like this..
Interviewer: I see
Blair: I mean they’re both I mean Watson Barbour even said do you think we could go and talk to some of these ministers? I said Barbour if that’s what you want to spend your time doing go right ahead. I’m not. Yea, I’m not gonna do that.
Interviewer: now they said that they were Austin Barbour said they weren’t going and trying to get black votes, right? That’s what they said?
Interviewer: now did he say that in the email you just read out? Or did he say that elsewhere?
Blair: No that’s in an email that was sent to the staff.
Interviewer: oh I’d love to get a copy of that. They’re not trying to get…what did he say exactly?
Blair: Uhh that they emphatically deny that and that they’re offended by the accusation.
Interviewer: the accusation that they tried to get democrats to vote or the fact that they …
Blair: The fact that they tried to get democrats to vote.
Interviewer: oh I see. Well I’d love that let me see I’ll send you my what’s your email address?
Blair: Umm it’s well I’ve got several it’s [Email REDACTED].I tell you what send it to this one because this is the one I’m going to have to send it to you on. It’s, you know what? You can send it to [EMAIL REDACTED] My computer I have a I have a Mac mini and I cannot send email out from my um from my inbox. Or I can’t send email out from my computer uh I trying to think..I can copy and past but that’s .. Will that work for you?
Interviewer: yea I mean that’s good you can just forward it or you can um copy
Blair: I just forwarded it from the email address he sent it to me on. It’s too old it was still on my phone.
Interviewer: he ok that’s fine umm and what is your email address?
Blair: Lee Blair was already taken
Interviewer: tell me about it there are a lot of Charles Johnson’s out there.
Blair: I bet there are
Interviewer: and most of them are black folk so let me just send this to you real quick um hi lee please send me the emails that you think I should see. And I’m gonna keep your name out of this. I’m not gonna get you in anymore hot water. Um
Blair: Well, and if all this goes away then I may be more open uh to that. Ah (stutter) this is my primary thing right now and you know and I told Heather you know she uh she and I had spoken at great lengths about all of this and um you know I just don’t want to alienate or make anybody else mad. You you see what I’m saying ya know?
Blair: And I’ve learned, I’ve learned through all of this it really doesn’t matter what you say someone’s gonna get upset. (Laughs)
Interviewer: ye politics is strange business no doubt about it. So I still can’t believe what did they tell you. Oh hold up Bleeblair sends it right back to me you got anther one?
Send it to [EMAIL REDACTED]
Blair: Alrighty. Yea and let me know whether there’s anything else you think I should know here but ah man I’m sorry this whole thing has kinda gone south on you that kinda sux um but um. It it’s not the shining highlight of my life
Interviewer: no but you know it’s always dark right before dawn. I’m sure that things are gonna pick up for you. Because you can’t have this much bad luck ya know forever
Interviewer: well let me know if you need anything from me I mean I still can’t believe you know who is is this Barbara woman? What was her last name?
Interviewer: Kendrick Barbara Kendrick was telling you that because I was a federal election you can use cash in a federal election ?
Blair: Yea, but I’m gonna tell you Charles Barbara doesn’t know and Barbara’s dumb as a box of rocks. She’s a friend of mine but lord, when they were handing out brains she was she was on the short bus so I don’t know. She says things to make herself sound important and uh have you ever met anybody like that?
Interviewer: yea and they pretend to be smarter than they are. Um
Blair: Right and that’s her. She she just doesn’t know what she’s talking about and so instead of saying I’m sorry I don’t know or I’m sorry I don’t have an answer to that she says something. And she she you know but I mean I just I the whole thing it’ s not just the money there were tons of things the right hand didn’t know what the left hand was doing. And they had they had ah this guy and he might talk to ya because he’s kinda he’s pretty mad. His name is Beau Patton. Have you ever heard of him?
Interviewer: no I have never heard of him, who is Beau Patton?
Blair: Ok Beau Patton is on Marsha Blackburn’s staff. Congressman Blackburn
Blair: He is one of her field reps in Tennessee. And he was brought on as statewide GOTV. Well uh he said that DeSoto County he was an expert in DeSoto County and as a matter of fact he ran, well he didn’t run but he was part of state Reeves uh campaign staff up here when he ran um and ah I guess since then he’s been working no well I tell ya what he also helps a get Pat Nelson elected no I’m sorry he worked on Pat Nelson’s Senatorial campaign. Um so uh Beau might be somebody that would be open to speaking with you and he worked in Jackson so he can he would be he he could tell ya the ins and the outs. But now don’t mention my name he doesn’t like me.
Interviewer: yea and what is he um have you got a contact for and send it along. But what ah what did he have to say I mean what was the ah
Blair: Well I don’t know what he would say but I but but he would be more in line ah to talk about that down there because I think they pretty much kicked him out the door. I mean they did not leave on good terms. So he might be able to give you some more background into this um you know because he was there at ground zero. You know he was in the campaign war room and you know um I mean it’s worth a shot I mean he may not talk to you but he might.
Interviewer: yea, I’ll see about it and let me know if there’s anything else I should know about. I mean that cash thing is crazy to me but..
Blair: (Unintelligible) and I can get you Watson’s information I doubt he’d talk to ya.
Interviewer: no I doubt he would too but send me
Blair: He’d want to be hired back for the fall campaign.
Interviewer: you know what send me whoever you can send me those volunteers who got cash you know send me whatever you want to send me you know I’m down to hear all of it you know I just wanna to be honest with ya I just want to get to the bottom of it, ya know? What’s going on umm that’s really,I’ve kinda spent so much time working on this now that I just wanna know what the heck is actually going on at the end of it so ah
Blair: I tell ya what it it’s awfully baffling to me.
Interviewer: how so baffling?
Blair: Well I mean it just it just handing somebody $10 thousand and say disturb it this but keep no record of it.
Blair: You know and then get upset when there’s no record. Did you think this through? Did anybody somewhere did any adult down there say you know what this is probably not a good idea to be handing 24 year old college graduates and fraternity brothers of Austin Barbour $10 thousand anyway. In 5’s and 20’s.
Interviewer: yea and who is that 24 year old they were sending 5’s and 20’s too?
Blair: Watson Horner
Interviewer: oh yea Watson Horner yea it’s kind of a strange thing to do. I don’t think I’ve ever really quite heard of that before.
Blair: I mean I don’t know I would imagine the federal election commission is going to get into this but I tell you what to throw poor old Amanda Shook under the bus. They ought to be ashamed of themselves. But see that’s what they do somebody gets in trouble with the (mumbled) someone does something that looks bad optically they just throw ’em in the mud. Ya know I mean I don’t have any love for Scott Brewster but lord at least the McDaniel people stuck with him.
Interviewer: yea what did you think of ah of them throwing under the bus your the treasurer do the campaign of the FEC reports when Amanda Shook was busted with all that money?
Blair: Yea you know that’s just that’s just it I mean these people do not these people do not make a decision about how the money is distributed or used. They are told what to do.
Interviewer: and who tells them what to do?
Blair: I would imagine that … I don’t know if it was Kirk I don’t know if it was David Clanton ah or any number of people. There were so many people that were quote unquote in charge you know it’s just it’s just baffles the mind.
Interviewer: yea well thank you Lee for your time if there’s anything else I should know you know where to find me and you can feel free to tex t me on my number anything you think I should know or if you wanna send me any photos of anything I don’t know if you’ve got a smartphone if you do just text me over the photos and I’ll keep you name out of it and I thank you for your time, sir.
Blair: If you come across anything you have a question about let me know.
Interviewer: I will and let’s staying touch and hope it hoes better for you here on out.
Blair: I appreciate it. Thank you so much